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		<title>By: Andy Leppard</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/1999/08/04/sex-for-memes-sake/comment-page-1/#comment-7062</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Leppard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say, &quot;Until the memes finally work out a way to do away with the need for humans altogether&quot;

This is what the singularity will be. A pure medium for memes (memedium?) with absolutely no need for gene-carrying humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say, &#8220;Until the memes finally work out a way to do away with the need for humans altogether&#8221;</p>
<p>This is what the singularity will be. A pure medium for memes (memedium?) with absolutely no need for gene-carrying humans.</p>
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		<title>By: stacy</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/1999/08/04/sex-for-memes-sake/comment-page-1/#comment-5017</link>
		<dc:creator>stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re trying to be superior to human life by trying to tack human behavior down w/ a &quot;logical/scientific&quot; explanation, be it memes or genes.  Humans must use our intellect to solve obstacles to our survival, as a tool.  But to use a reductionist logic to explain ourselves to ourselves doesn&#039;t explain anything at all.  Life is much too complex.  The wise man/woman say I know my limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re trying to be superior to human life by trying to tack human behavior down w/ a &#8220;logical/scientific&#8221; explanation, be it memes or genes.  Humans must use our intellect to solve obstacles to our survival, as a tool.  But to use a reductionist logic to explain ourselves to ourselves doesn&#8217;t explain anything at all.  Life is much too complex.  The wise man/woman say I know my limits.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Henson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Henson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And actually, there is an evolutionary psychology reason rather than an entirely meme based reason for kinky sex like that discussed.  (Though the exact details tend to be memeticly determined.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_bonding

&quot;Capture-bonding is a descriptive evolutionary psychology term for the evolved psychological mechanism behind Stockholm syndrome. John Tooby (then a graduate student) originated the concept and its ramifications in the early 1980s, though he did not publish. (source: Leda Cosmides.) Keith Henson reached the same conclusions independently 15 years later about the evolutionary origin and widespread effects of this psychological mechanism on humans and human societies.

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&quot;Henson has proposed that the partial activation of this psychological trait accounts for other mysterious human traits such as Basic training &quot;a mildly traumatic experience intended to produce a bond&quot; and fraternity hazing (perhaps also other similar initiation rites). The difficulty colleges have had in stamping out injurious hazing may stem from instinctual knowledge of how to induce bonding in captives. 

&quot;He also makes a case that the intense reward from sexual practices such as BDSM derives from activation of the capture-bonding psychological mechanisms.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And actually, there is an evolutionary psychology reason rather than an entirely meme based reason for kinky sex like that discussed.  (Though the exact details tend to be memeticly determined.)</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_bonding" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_bonding</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Capture-bonding is a descriptive evolutionary psychology term for the evolved psychological mechanism behind Stockholm syndrome. John Tooby (then a graduate student) originated the concept and its ramifications in the early 1980s, though he did not publish. (source: Leda Cosmides.) Keith Henson reached the same conclusions independently 15 years later about the evolutionary origin and widespread effects of this psychological mechanism on humans and human societies.</p>
<p>snip</p>
<p>&#8220;Henson has proposed that the partial activation of this psychological trait accounts for other mysterious human traits such as Basic training &#8220;a mildly traumatic experience intended to produce a bond&#8221; and fraternity hazing (perhaps also other similar initiation rites). The difficulty colleges have had in stamping out injurious hazing may stem from instinctual knowledge of how to induce bonding in captives. </p>
<p>&#8220;He also makes a case that the intense reward from sexual practices such as BDSM derives from activation of the capture-bonding psychological mechanisms.&#8221;</p>
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