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		<title>By: Henry Kisshisass</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-23958</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Kisshisass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we living in a fascist state?

No, but...we ARE living under the yoke of an administration that has and is preparing the legal, propaganda, economic, political, military, and coercive foundation for a fascist state.

In framing the question thus, "Are we living in a fascist state?", the issue of intent, dictatorial aspiration, rigged elections, and the cumulative results of oppressive and unconstitutional legislation, are bypassed. 

If the question is framed thus: "Are we living in a semi-fascist state?", the answer is more sinister. 

The answer is that, whether or not we are living in a fascist state, the Federal Government has taken the United States as far along the road to state repression as could possibly be done to date, and intends to go further in future. Consider the extent, and scope, and range, and remit of the laws this administration and the former Republican Congress has enacted. 

The question itself is an irrelevance to the culture of the United States. The true question is how far have the liberties and freedoms of the free-est people in history been been removed from both the clauses and ideals of the Constitution?

Of course we are not living in a fascist state. But we are living in a nation whose leaders have signaled a clear resolve to restrict both our liberties and our ability to counter and oppose their policy of restructuring all of our internal social, political, and economic institutions, until they are in accord with their external agenda of enforced world integration. 

We are living in what a former British Attorney General (Lord Chancellor) called an "elective dictatorship." - We get to elect who dictates to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we living in a fascist state?</p>
<p>No, but&#8230;we ARE living under the yoke of an administration that has and is preparing the legal, propaganda, economic, political, military, and coercive foundation for a fascist state.</p>
<p>In framing the question thus, &#8220;Are we living in a fascist state?&#8221;, the issue of intent, dictatorial aspiration, rigged elections, and the cumulative results of oppressive and unconstitutional legislation, are bypassed. </p>
<p>If the question is framed thus: &#8220;Are we living in a semi-fascist state?&#8221;, the answer is more sinister. </p>
<p>The answer is that, whether or not we are living in a fascist state, the Federal Government has taken the United States as far along the road to state repression as could possibly be done to date, and intends to go further in future. Consider the extent, and scope, and range, and remit of the laws this administration and the former Republican Congress has enacted. </p>
<p>The question itself is an irrelevance to the culture of the United States. The true question is how far have the liberties and freedoms of the free-est people in history been been removed from both the clauses and ideals of the Constitution?</p>
<p>Of course we are not living in a fascist state. But we are living in a nation whose leaders have signaled a clear resolve to restrict both our liberties and our ability to counter and oppose their policy of restructuring all of our internal social, political, and economic institutions, until they are in accord with their external agenda of enforced world integration. </p>
<p>We are living in what a former British Attorney General (Lord Chancellor) called an &#8220;elective dictatorship.&#8221; - We get to elect who dictates to us.</p>
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		<title>By: truth machine</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-21922</link>
		<dc:creator>truth machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;He was promoting a form of National Syndicalism. Such a system is effectively socialist.&lt;/i&gt;

And I bet you think all dogs are poodles, moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He was promoting a form of National Syndicalism. Such a system is effectively socialist.</i></p>
<p>And I bet you think all dogs are poodles, moron.</p>
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		<title>By: truth machine</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-21921</link>
		<dc:creator>truth machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Humorless liberals yell “Fascist!” at anything they don’t like: NASCAR, Wal-Mart, or especially somebody enjoying a nice hamburger.&lt;/i&gt;

Why would anyone ask someone from "Wonkette" for an opinion on a serious topic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Humorless liberals yell “Fascist!” at anything they don’t like: NASCAR, Wal-Mart, or especially somebody enjoying a nice hamburger.</i></p>
<p>Why would anyone ask someone from &#8220;Wonkette&#8221; for an opinion on a serious topic?</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-19028</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 06:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course we don't live in a fascist state.

My evidence for this?  All you dumbasses posting that "yes, we live in a fascist state" are still alive.

If this was a fascist state you'd be dead and this page would be gone.  You'd have been arrested, interrogated leading to your confession of crimes against the state, tried, sentenced to death and executed.  End of story.

Has this happened?  No.  Therefore no fascist state exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course we don&#8217;t live in a fascist state.</p>
<p>My evidence for this?  All you dumbasses posting that &#8220;yes, we live in a fascist state&#8221; are still alive.</p>
<p>If this was a fascist state you&#8217;d be dead and this page would be gone.  You&#8217;d have been arrested, interrogated leading to your confession of crimes against the state, tried, sentenced to death and executed.  End of story.</p>
<p>Has this happened?  No.  Therefore no fascist state exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Messilenni</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-6870</link>
		<dc:creator>Messilenni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The corporatism that Mussolini was alluding to in his famous 'Fascism should more properly be called corporatism ...' statement is a species of syndicalism (corporativismo).  

He was promoting a form of National Syndicalism. Such a system is effectively socialist. 

Look it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The corporatism that Mussolini was alluding to in his famous &#8216;Fascism should more properly be called corporatism &#8230;&#8217; statement is a species of syndicalism (corporativismo).  </p>
<p>He was promoting a form of National Syndicalism. Such a system is effectively socialist. </p>
<p>Look it up.</p>
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		<title>By: The Invisible Library &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Return of the King</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-5608</link>
		<dc:creator>The Invisible Library &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Return of the King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] David, a regular reader, sent me this link to an R.U. Sirius article asking, &#8220;Is it fascism yet?&#8221; I agree with some of the writers, not with others but they are all worth reading, simply because it&#8217;s one of those questions that is interesting and much needed, if a really loaded one. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] David, a regular reader, sent me this link to an R.U. Sirius article asking, &#8220;Is it fascism yet?&#8221; I agree with some of the writers, not with others but they are all worth reading, simply because it&#8217;s one of those questions that is interesting and much needed, if a really loaded one. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Bains</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-1144</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 04:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more and more that there are tedious, disputatious arguments proferred over the existence of American fascism, the deeper one is already in its thrall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more and more that there are tedious, disputatious arguments proferred over the existence of American fascism, the deeper one is already in its thrall.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-1015</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascism, in this day and age, seems a rather nebulous concept. I can't count how many times I have asked someone to define fascism only to draw a blank stare or an amibiguous collection of rants against the Anglo-American power structure that, while often true, do little to define fascism.

A few minutes ago I decided to browse some search engines for an adequate definition of fascism and what I found was a piece that did much more. Leave it to Third World Traveller to carry an essay of this quality, I say. I hope you find this illuminating:

Fascism Defined
http://justanotherblowback.blogspot.com/2006/12/fascism-defined.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascism, in this day and age, seems a rather nebulous concept. I can&#8217;t count how many times I have asked someone to define fascism only to draw a blank stare or an amibiguous collection of rants against the Anglo-American power structure that, while often true, do little to define fascism.</p>
<p>A few minutes ago I decided to browse some search engines for an adequate definition of fascism and what I found was a piece that did much more. Leave it to Third World Traveller to carry an essay of this quality, I say. I hope you find this illuminating:</p>
<p>Fascism Defined<br />
<a href="http://justanotherblowback.blogspot.com/2006/12/fascism-defined.html" rel="nofollow">http://justanotherblowback.blogspot.com/2006/12/fascism-defined.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>DS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a great &lt;a HREF="http://www.fdrs.org/fascism_definition.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;fascism definition&lt;/A&gt; and how it relates to America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a great <a HREF="http://www.fdrs.org/fascism_definition.html" rel="nofollow">fascism definition</a> and how it relates to America.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Schaffer</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-918</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Schaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About ten years ago I read this short essay by Umberto Eco regarding fascism.

http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About ten years ago I read this short essay by Umberto Eco regarding fascism.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fitz</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-883</link>
		<dc:creator>Fitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I discovered this article from listen to the recent podcast earlier today.  What sprung to mind immediately was Thurman W. Arnold's _The Folklore of Capitalism_. 

Arnold, one of the founders of the law firm Arnold &#38; Porter as well as a close associate of H. L. Menchen, outlines in the book how since the Second World War any attempt to change the status quo in American becomes labled either "Fascist" or "Communist."  The seemingly confusing interchange on Left Fascism and Right Fascism as well as Islamofascism reminded me that in a post-Cold War time the actgory of "Communist" as Arnold outlined its use in social maintaince has evaporated from public discourse. In the abscence of any alternate now the default descriptor of anyone engage in changing the world in any substantial fashion, or even simply interested in doing so, has become a "Fascist."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I discovered this article from listen to the recent podcast earlier today.  What sprung to mind immediately was Thurman W. Arnold&#8217;s _The Folklore of Capitalism_. </p>
<p>Arnold, one of the founders of the law firm Arnold &amp; Porter as well as a close associate of H. L. Menchen, outlines in the book how since the Second World War any attempt to change the status quo in American becomes labled either &#8220;Fascist&#8221; or &#8220;Communist.&#8221;  The seemingly confusing interchange on Left Fascism and Right Fascism as well as Islamofascism reminded me that in a post-Cold War time the actgory of &#8220;Communist&#8221; as Arnold outlined its use in social maintaince has evaporated from public discourse. In the abscence of any alternate now the default descriptor of anyone engage in changing the world in any substantial fashion, or even simply interested in doing so, has become a &#8220;Fascist.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: auto-assembly  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Is it fascism yet?</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-879</link>
		<dc:creator>auto-assembly  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Is it fascism yet?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] d we live in a permanent state of emergency. From the UK it make sense that someone had to ask the question.  Tags - 	 	 	 December 7, 2006 at 10:38 pm by auto-assemble  	 	In ca [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] d we live in a permanent state of emergency. From the UK it make sense that someone had to ask the question.  Tags - 	 	 	 December 7, 2006 at 10:38 pm by auto-assemble  	 	In ca [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Yoke of B'nai B'rith</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-769</link>
		<dc:creator>The Yoke of B'nai B'rith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But those people against intervension in WWII were french-frying appeasers or nazi sympathizers.  Or a case of the "banality of evil".

My loyalty is to my tribe (my kin and kith), not to some historical ideal, not to some higher calling, not to a secure police-state democracy, not to any nationalism, nation or border, and this puts me in the camp with the Mohammed Al-Sadr's of the world.

The "new world order" conspiracy theorists are right, but it it's not "new".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But those people against intervension in WWII were french-frying appeasers or nazi sympathizers.  Or a case of the &#8220;banality of evil&#8221;.</p>
<p>My loyalty is to my tribe (my kin and kith), not to some historical ideal, not to some higher calling, not to a secure police-state democracy, not to any nationalism, nation or border, and this puts me in the camp with the Mohammed Al-Sadr&#8217;s of the world.</p>
<p>The &#8220;new world order&#8221; conspiracy theorists are right, but it it&#8217;s not &#8220;new&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: The American Street  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Is it Fascism?</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>The American Street  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Is it Fascism?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]                             Several credible people, including longtime blogger Ken Layne, provide the answers. What do you think?                                                 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]                             Several credible people, including longtime blogger Ken Layne, provide the answers. What do you think?                                                 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stanley Lieber</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanley Lieber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&#62;&#62;I always wonder when I see some protester carrying one of those (relatively rare, actually) "Bush = Hitler" protest signs: How do they think that's helping? Do they think somebody walking down the street who is sort of neutral is going to see this sign and say, "Oh, Bush equals Hitler! Why didn't you say so? I'm going to revolt now."&lt;/i&gt;

It is possible that in some cases people are simply trying to create a historical record of the dissent that exists in this time period. It's all too easy for history to write these people out and create a picture of national unity. See WWII.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&gt;&gt;I always wonder when I see some protester carrying one of those (relatively rare, actually) &#8220;Bush = Hitler&#8221; protest signs: How do they think that&#8217;s helping? Do they think somebody walking down the street who is sort of neutral is going to see this sign and say, &#8220;Oh, Bush equals Hitler! Why didn&#8217;t you say so? I&#8217;m going to revolt now.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>It is possible that in some cases people are simply trying to create a historical record of the dissent that exists in this time period. It&#8217;s all too easy for history to write these people out and create a picture of national unity. See WWII.</p>
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		<title>By: Postmodern Angst  &#187; Is It Fascism Yet?</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-751</link>
		<dc:creator>Postmodern Angst  &#187; Is It Fascism Yet?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 07:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] l Godot 	   	 		   		 			&#171; Read This Now 			 		   		 			Is It Fascism Yet? 			 				  Do we live in a fascist state? Why, or why not? R.U. Sirius asks the quest [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] l Godot 	   	 		   		 			&laquo; Read This Now 			 		   		 			Is It Fascism Yet? 			 				  Do we live in a fascist state? Why, or why not? R.U. Sirius asks the quest [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ryan brown</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-745</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya Ru 
Great article on American Fascism.
I have a new website called www.fascistamerica.net
which is a twice weekly comic strip which you might like.
thanks again
Ryan


p.s Il put a link to your website on my links page anyhow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya Ru<br />
Great article on American Fascism.<br />
I have a new website called <a href="http://www.fascistamerica.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.fascistamerica.net</a><br />
which is a twice weekly comic strip which you might like.<br />
thanks again<br />
Ryan</p>
<p>p.s Il put a link to your website on my links page anyhow</p>
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		<title>By: Clever</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator>Clever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wish Ben Marble, MD, wouldn't refer to GW as Dubya Gump. It's an insult to Forest Gump's character. The Gump character isn't menacing or malicious. He is just a simple man. GW goes waaaaaaaay beyond simple, and that is the problem. Perot was simple to the point of near genius. We need a little more of that...less evil, more sincere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wish Ben Marble, MD, wouldn&#8217;t refer to GW as Dubya Gump. It&#8217;s an insult to Forest Gump&#8217;s character. The Gump character isn&#8217;t menacing or malicious. He is just a simple man. GW goes waaaaaaaay beyond simple, and that is the problem. Perot was simple to the point of near genius. We need a little more of that&#8230;less evil, more sincere.</p>
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		<title>By: Knemon</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-732</link>
		<dc:creator>Knemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"These infernal regions also need to be seen within the context of the explosion of heterosexual and homosexual BD/SM pornography all over the world, but mostly emanating from the USA."

Watch out, the libertarians won't like that.

"Maybe, as Byrne once sang, "it's same as it ever was," and I've just finally reached the age where I can't take it anymore. Or maybe it's because I WAS a child of the 60s and saw such a remarkable, progressive renaissance. This nation has always been about violence and prejudice and hypocrisy. What was unusual was the moments when it was SOMETHING ELSE, when peace, love, and compassion were celebrated and practiced."

Maybe it's that you're displacing your fear of death?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These infernal regions also need to be seen within the context of the explosion of heterosexual and homosexual BD/SM pornography all over the world, but mostly emanating from the USA.&#8221;</p>
<p>Watch out, the libertarians won&#8217;t like that.</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe, as Byrne once sang, &#8220;it&#8217;s same as it ever was,&#8221; and I&#8217;ve just finally reached the age where I can&#8217;t take it anymore. Or maybe it&#8217;s because I WAS a child of the 60s and saw such a remarkable, progressive renaissance. This nation has always been about violence and prejudice and hypocrisy. What was unusual was the moments when it was SOMETHING ELSE, when peace, love, and compassion were celebrated and practiced.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s that you&#8217;re displacing your fear of death?</p>
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		<title>By: RexRhino</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/28/is-it-fascism-yet/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>RexRhino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the U.S. is not truly facist yet... If it was, an article like this would get you disappeared by the secret police.

However, ideologically the U.S. (as well as other Western nations) are becoming facist, or at least totalitarian an authoritarian (facism in the original sense died in WWII). I would even venture to say most of the comentators are likely facist, although their facist ideology is probably has superficial estetic differences from the neocon brand of facist ideology.

The important thing to remember is that facism is the means, not the end. Facism isn't a goal, but the way people want to achieve the goal. Neocons want the state to regulate speech, in order to supress dissent about foreign policy, and that is facism of course. However, leftists who opposed that sort of censorship have no problem supporting speech codes (to stop "hateful" speech, of course), or the banning of political advertisments, or whatever. The left often try to justify it, but essentially there are types of speech that they want to elminate, and they are more than willing to give the state power to regulate speech as long as the power is exercised with leftist sensabilities.

Virtually all mainstream politics in America want the U.S. government to have a broad and vast increase of powers, they simply disagree on how the powers should be used. The right wants vast government powers to observe and search private property in order to fight terrorism... the left wants vast government powers to observe and search private property to fight enviornmental crimes. The right wants to ban pornography because it is sinful, the left wants to ban pornography because it exploits women. The right wants the public schools to push prayer and patriotism, the left wants public schools to push diversity and sensitivity, but both fully agree the role of the public schools is to indoctrinate youth.

The left and the right are really the same ideology. Both have the same vision for the amount of control the government should have on society (total control). The disagreements between the left and the right are not pro-authority or anti-authority, as both are in love with authority. There are simply some superficial disagreements about what sort of estetics should guide totalitarian power in America. Some people want Castro, some people want Pinochet, but everyone wants the big papa to spank them and tell them they are bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the U.S. is not truly facist yet&#8230; If it was, an article like this would get you disappeared by the secret police.</p>
<p>However, ideologically the U.S. (as well as other Western nations) are becoming facist, or at least totalitarian an authoritarian (facism in the original sense died in WWII). I would even venture to say most of the comentators are likely facist, although their facist ideology is probably has superficial estetic differences from the neocon brand of facist ideology.</p>
<p>The important thing to remember is that facism is the means, not the end. Facism isn&#8217;t a goal, but the way people want to achieve the goal. Neocons want the state to regulate speech, in order to supress dissent about foreign policy, and that is facism of course. However, leftists who opposed that sort of censorship have no problem supporting speech codes (to stop &#8220;hateful&#8221; speech, of course), or the banning of political advertisments, or whatever. The left often try to justify it, but essentially there are types of speech that they want to elminate, and they are more than willing to give the state power to regulate speech as long as the power is exercised with leftist sensabilities.</p>
<p>Virtually all mainstream politics in America want the U.S. government to have a broad and vast increase of powers, they simply disagree on how the powers should be used. The right wants vast government powers to observe and search private property in order to fight terrorism&#8230; the left wants vast government powers to observe and search private property to fight enviornmental crimes. The right wants to ban pornography because it is sinful, the left wants to ban pornography because it exploits women. The right wants the public schools to push prayer and patriotism, the left wants public schools to push diversity and sensitivity, but both fully agree the role of the public schools is to indoctrinate youth.</p>
<p>The left and the right are really the same ideology. Both have the same vision for the amount of control the government should have on society (total control). The disagreements between the left and the right are not pro-authority or anti-authority, as both are in love with authority. There are simply some superficial disagreements about what sort of estetics should guide totalitarian power in America. Some people want Castro, some people want Pinochet, but everyone wants the big papa to spank them and tell them they are bad.</p>
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