If one were to get the medical information on any group of the veterans used in the Edgewood testing, it would show similar illness and disabilities in all of them, caused by the testing.

I was one of the ones used at Edgewood Arsenal in 1973. I, myself am totally disabled, suffering from COPD, emphazema, heart failure, strokes, PTSD and nervous system disfunction.

Letters were sent out to most of the former test subjects, and asked them various questions about their health. This form of communication would be good if getting information about a recently released movei, or a television show. Not for getting valid medical information on ones health and condition, in a clinical invironment.

There has been no medical examination done by VA, or the IOM, to try to prove or disporve the effects done by the testing done at Edgewood Arsenal.

Nothing has been said about the test subjects being exposed not only to the doctors experiments, but the subjects also being exposed to contamination in the soil and water there. Contaminations such as Sulphur Mustard, BZ, napalm, WP, agent orange, agent white, and agent green. Combine the test done by the doctors and the environmental contamination and you have a bunch of sick and disabled veterans.

Yes the government has covered up the testing done, and they have covered up the sick and disabled veterans that were at Edgewood Arsenal. We were promised the Soldiers Medal, and have not gotten it.

I wonder if when I do finally die, will I get my Government Issued Coffin, along with my Flag to drape over it, and a burial detail to stick me in my grave?

this is a link to the 1994 Rockefeller report after reading it tell me again how the CIA had nothing to do with the DOD/Army experiments at Edgewood it is under section F Hallucengenics Is Senator Rockefeller’s report a lie?

If you have not read my book, how can you evaluate it? It is not an attempt to rewrite history, it is an attempt to provide accurate history and make it available to the public. I’ve written to you previously, whether you recall it or not. I wrote several times to Eric Muth but it did little to change his conclusions. I would hope you still have an open mind and will examine the published data objectively.

James Ketchum, MD

nice attempt to change the subject though.

Page WF: Long-term health effects of exposure to sarin and other anticholinesterase chemical warfare agents. Military Medicine, 168, 3:239, 2003

This comprehensive follow-up actually provides data that show no evidence of harm done to the health of volunteers exposed to drugs like BZ or Sarin. The only exceptions are a slightly lower rate of problems with attention in the BZ-like chemical testing volunteers (hardly a problem) and a slightly higher rate of sleep problems in those exposed to sarin type drugs (significance unclear). This is hardly an indictment of the program, considering that numerous comparisons were made in a statistically valid analysis, all those other than the two mentioned showing lower or the same rates of health problems in those tested with BZ type (anticholinergic drugs) and/or sarin type (anticholinesterase) drugs. These findings are in agreement with the NAS findings in 1982.

I know people who were paranoid for years. I’ve had paranoid trips and I don’t believe I’m all the way back yet.
and these were in the rock-n-roll and grateful dead situations etc.

Given the army state of mind ands it’s known methods I would like to know more about the people he claims were not hurt.

Im more inclined to support Mike Bailey (posted above) and not believe the doctor representing this work as noble etc.

Further I believe Mr BAiley and his fellows deserve a complete aknowledgement and just compensation, ratehr than more paranoia inducing denial by this guy and the army.

Hey, I met four people who worked that naval yard during World War II, and they never said a word about it. If something had gone on, they would have known and would have spoken up. They had nothing to fear.

These men are: Robert A. Heinlein, Isaac Asimov, Theodore Sturgeon and L. Sprauge deCamp. There might have been another one or two , but I can’t recall at this early in the morning.

All the Philadelphia Experiment stuff is BS. A lot of it is information of the kind “a friend of a friend told me”, and one of the books on the subject was “channeled”.

Of the 7120 enlisted men used from 1955 thru 1975 the last health study completed by the IOM in March 2003 based on the men of Edgewood shows that 2098 men died prematurely and another 2200 men are disabled for a combined death and disability rate of 74.43%, so the program was hardly harmless. The IOM Report can be found here http://www.iom.edu/Object.File/Master/5/844/MilitaryMedicineSarin2003.pdf

I am in contact with 12 other veterans of the Edgewood experiments and we are all disabled, yet the VA will NOT address the experiments at Edgewood Arsenal nor the EPA reports that show the 77 toxic materials in the soil and water wells of the Arsenal found in 1978 which led the EPA to order the water wells capped http://cfpub1.epa.gov/supercpad/cursites/ccontinfo.cfm?id=0300421 this is the list of toxic substances.

Everyone is allowed their own opinions but not their own set of facts, this program did hurt people, the 1975 DA IG Report found these experiments violated the Nuremberg Codes of 1947 and Congress pressed the Army until the Program was stopped in June 1975. They did not truly give the volunteers informed consent, the volunteers signed consent forms on arrival at Edgewood that covered the entire 60 day test period, not experiment by experiment as informed consent requires.

Justice Sandra Day O’Connor stated in the 1987 Stanley vs US dissent that these experiments remined her of “Auschwitz style experiments” and the the “victims deserved to be compensated” hardly a endorsement of a well run program.

Here’s the link to the Wikipedia article, for what it’s worth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis