Comments on: Closing Pandora’s Box: The End of Internet Radio? http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/03/closing-pandoras-box-the-end-of-internet-radio/ Your source for technology culture, internet phenomena, politics, interviews and entertainment Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:31:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Dante Rosado http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/03/closing-pandoras-box-the-end-of-internet-radio/#comment-34115 Dante Rosado Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:02:24 +0000 http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/03/closing-pandoras-box-the-end-of-internet-radio/#comment-34115 As a previus listener from Argentina I tryd some of the workaronds on the Internet. I recomment www.globalpandora.com as it works very much for myself. Saludos D As a previus listener from Argentina I tryd some of the workaronds on the Internet. I recomment http://www.globalpandora.com as it works very much for myself.

Saludos
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]]> By: Mikeb OOM http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/03/closing-pandoras-box-the-end-of-internet-radio/#comment-19631 Mikeb OOM Mon, 02 Jul 2007 07:52:24 +0000 http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/03/closing-pandoras-box-the-end-of-internet-radio/#comment-19631 OOM, I am one of millions, spreading the "Pandora is great" word to other millions. I am cheap when it comes to spending money to support marketing of music I am supposed to like. Thanks to your site, I have been reinvigorated towards music beyond this pattern and became turned on to groups I would like to buy from. Alas as a Canadian living outside CAN/US boundaries, my elation and buying was shortlived. Thanks for creating your site. I hope one day that "music" and "whole world" become possible through your site. Sincerely, Mike OOM,
I am one of millions, spreading the “Pandora is great” word to other millions. I am cheap when it comes to spending money to support marketing of music I am supposed to like. Thanks to your site, I have been reinvigorated towards music beyond this pattern and became turned on to groups I would like to buy from.
Alas as a Canadian living outside CAN/US boundaries, my elation and buying was shortlived. Thanks for creating your site. I hope one day that “music” and “whole world” become possible through your site.
Sincerely, Mike

]]> By: Vadim Uharkin http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/03/closing-pandoras-box-the-end-of-internet-radio/#comment-18158 Vadim Uharkin Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:06:38 +0000 http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/03/closing-pandoras-box-the-end-of-internet-radio/#comment-18158 Lots of apreciation for the digitaly imported internet radio , it has been a strong , well known in the modern comunity websight , it always had a wide floting music range , and it became a usual suporter and follower of our daily habitat. Thanks for beeing out there. Lots of apreciation for the digitaly imported internet radio , it has been a strong , well known in the modern comunity websight , it always had a wide floting music range , and it became a usual suporter and follower of our daily habitat.
Thanks for beeing out there.

]]> By: AdaMM http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/03/closing-pandoras-box-the-end-of-internet-radio/#comment-16567 AdaMM Thu, 10 May 2007 15:01:22 +0000 http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/03/closing-pandoras-box-the-end-of-internet-radio/#comment-16567 thanks for really good inside stuff. but what bothers me a lot, is the cutting off the non-us listeners (which includes me, and i believe i was one of the first in czech rep. to spread the message about panodra around my friends and on my weblog), without _really letting us know who is behind that_. see, the only thing i've found was tim's comment after tens or even hundreds of tearfull comments appeared on pandora blog. he said it's not the RIAA this time, but their counterparts in other countries. please, let us know, who is in charge of this move? labels? german/french/spanish author right organisations? to whom shall we complain? where are actually those ppl you've been trying to convince over last two years without much success? what is the whole legal story there? and does it mean, that other online radios based in usa (not only similar services to pandora, like last.fm) stream internationally illegally? (i have in mind e.g. soma.fm, my favourite 'old' streaming station.) as i wrote an article about czech online radios, i questioned OSA and Intergram (two bodies responsible for author rights in music in .cz) and from what they said, it has seemed to me, that they might indeed at least in theory start some legal actions against any online radio that hasn't contacted them and sorted out the legal issues specifically for .cz. not that they do such thing, but they're still dumb enough to put to sleep most of czech online radios with their policy, not much different to the one in US. (the same attitude goes toward the whole author rights problem, where they act like one big rocketeer service, which is i believe much common for all the countries worldwide.) RU - can you persuade this case a bit further? it's not only that they block international ips, but also every single ip-anonymizer i've tried (you get to the site, but you're left with 'sorry, we're having technical difficulties' message) - is that legal? these services might be used (because of many various reasons) also by users in USA, right? furthermore, when i wanted to post a comment to pandora blog saying 'i believe it's only a matter of time when googling for 'howto pandora outside usa' will give you a solution' - the comment didn't appear (and, at least for now, i wasn't right, since the work-arounds had been filtered out). thanks for really good inside stuff. but what bothers me a lot, is the cutting off the non-us listeners (which includes me, and i believe i was one of the first in czech rep. to spread the message about panodra around my friends and on my weblog), without _really letting us know who is behind that_.
see, the only thing i’ve found was tim’s comment after tens or even hundreds of tearfull comments appeared on pandora blog. he said it’s not the RIAA this time, but their counterparts in other countries.

please, let us know, who is in charge of this move? labels? german/french/spanish author right organisations? to whom shall we complain? where are actually those ppl you’ve been trying to convince over last two years without much success? what is the whole legal story there? and does it mean, that other online radios based in usa (not only similar services to pandora, like last.fm) stream internationally illegally? (i have in mind e.g. soma.fm, my favourite ‘old’ streaming station.)

as i wrote an article about czech online radios, i questioned OSA and Intergram (two bodies responsible for author rights in music in .cz) and from what they said, it has seemed to me, that they might indeed at least in theory start some legal actions against any online radio that hasn’t contacted them and sorted out the legal issues specifically for .cz. not that they do such thing, but they’re still dumb enough to put to sleep most of czech online radios with their policy, not much different to the one in US. (the same attitude goes toward the whole author rights problem, where they act like one big rocketeer service, which is i believe much common for all the countries worldwide.)

RU - can you persuade this case a bit further? it’s not only that they block international ips, but also every single ip-anonymizer i’ve tried (you get to the site, but you’re left with ’sorry, we’re having technical difficulties’ message) - is that legal? these services might be used (because of many various reasons) also by users in USA, right? furthermore, when i wanted to post a comment to pandora blog saying ‘i believe it’s only a matter of time when googling for ‘howto pandora outside usa’ will give you a solution’ - the comment didn’t appear (and, at least for now, i wasn’t right, since the work-arounds had been filtered out).

]]> By: Net Radio Rocker http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/03/closing-pandoras-box-the-end-of-internet-radio/#comment-15173 Net Radio Rocker Fri, 04 May 2007 04:37:11 +0000 http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/05/03/closing-pandoras-box-the-end-of-internet-radio/#comment-15173 The future of music lies in the internet. The music industry (musicians & labels) are jeopardizing their OWN financial futures by raising their rates to astronomical proportions, and killing net radio. I personally have bought CDs from artists I discovered on internet radio. As two businesses that cannot exist without one another, there is a definite need for some sort of compromise or agreement. The bill proposed sounds reasonable. Word of advice for some of those greedy labels out there : "Don't cut your nose off to spite your face". The future of music lies in the internet. The music industry (musicians & labels) are jeopardizing their OWN financial futures by raising their rates to astronomical proportions, and killing net radio. I personally have bought CDs from artists I discovered on internet radio. As two businesses that cannot exist without one another, there is a definite need for some sort of compromise or agreement. The bill proposed sounds reasonable. Word of advice for some of those greedy labels out there : “Don’t cut your nose off to spite your face”.

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