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	<title>Comments on: Craigslist Sex Troll Gets Sued</title>
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		<title>By: Weaver</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-76640</link>
		<dc:creator>Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going to criminal and civil court is nothing new for Jason Fortuny:

Kcdc-west Div (sdc) Y4-000622 01-26-2004

King Co Superior Ct 08-9-32243-8 10-23-2008

King Co Superior Ct 08-2-30301-2 09-04-2008

Pierce Co Superior 00-2-08421-3 06-02-2000

King Co Superior Ct 08-2-36569-7 10-23-2008

Pierce Co Superior 01-9-08250-8 06-22-2001

Kirkland Municipal 17424 06-12-2002

Kcdc-east Div (isq) C00006878 06-03-2004

Kcdc-east Div (ned) Y2-030364 04-24-2002

Fircrest Municipal C00035455 03-29-1999

Kirkland Municipal 16442 09-04-2001

Federal Way Muni CA0029461 05-29-2003

Kcdc-east Div (isq) I00032441 06-23-2004

Kcdc-east Div (isq) Y4-001372 03-02-2004</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going to criminal and civil court is nothing new for Jason Fortuny:</p>
<p>Kcdc-west Div (sdc) Y4-000622 01-26-2004</p>
<p>King Co Superior Ct 08-9-32243-8 10-23-2008</p>
<p>King Co Superior Ct 08-2-30301-2 09-04-2008</p>
<p>Pierce Co Superior 00-2-08421-3 06-02-2000</p>
<p>King Co Superior Ct 08-2-36569-7 10-23-2008</p>
<p>Pierce Co Superior 01-9-08250-8 06-22-2001</p>
<p>Kirkland Municipal 17424 06-12-2002</p>
<p>Kcdc-east Div (isq) C00006878 06-03-2004</p>
<p>Kcdc-east Div (ned) Y2-030364 04-24-2002</p>
<p>Fircrest Municipal C00035455 03-29-1999</p>
<p>Kirkland Municipal 16442 09-04-2001</p>
<p>Federal Way Muni CA0029461 05-29-2003</p>
<p>Kcdc-east Div (isq) I00032441 06-23-2004</p>
<p>Kcdc-east Div (isq) Y4-001372 03-02-2004</p>
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		<title>By: happy endings?</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-76419</link>
		<dc:creator>happy endings?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just finished a documentary on Rhode Island where prostitution is legal.
Most if not all of the Asian Massage parlors use CL to advertise.  Check out www.happyendingsdoc.com and see the fight for and against prostitution.
See what is really going on "behind closed doors"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just finished a documentary on Rhode Island where prostitution is legal.<br />
Most if not all of the Asian Massage parlors use CL to advertise.  Check out <a href="http://www.happyendingsdoc.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.happyendingsdoc.com</a> and see the fight for and against prostitution.<br />
See what is really going on &#8220;behind closed doors&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: randal sean harrison</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-69870</link>
		<dc:creator>randal sean harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a difficult issue because it articulates to questions not only of copyright and technology but about social good and morality, believe it or not.  For anyone who's done any research on DMCA, it's bad whodoo.  Its ostensible aim is to protect artists; it actually helps limit any real creative space in a public commons.  And, yeah, copyright obtains automatically with creation (fixation in a tangible medium) and it was sent as a personal email...but there is provision for "newsworthy" use which I support when the use of images provide a public good which outweighs public privacy--say, repressed photos of coffins of US soldiers, or even Dateline (which I thought awful and bathetic) which was responding to a perceived "epidemic" of internet predators.  He won't be able to argue that, though, since he's already claimed that he did it as a lark, without forethought, etc. 

Still, what really worries me (and I'm an academic who diggs heavily and studies new media) is the utter lack of charity on this Troll's part (I like it as a noun which refers to Fortuny).  Not only this other dude, but likely all or most of his victims' live were substantially ----ed (pun intended) because he "caught them with their pants down."  Reminds me of the bully in sixth grade who kicked open the stall door to show the other kids you were doing your business.  I agree, it also smacks of entrapment.  Lastly, it reminds me of the mind-numbingly ignorant beauty contestant who became famous recently-- not just for a week but wherever she goes now.  In a digital age, there's a lot to be said for anonymity and forgiveness and charity (the ability to realize how you might identify with the person judged as someone who also makes mistakes and feels pain).  We should remember to remember these things. 

And by the way, arguments which suggest that people who disagree with you have "something to hide" are fallacious.  They're ad hominem attacks.  Unethical and ignorant.  You can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a difficult issue because it articulates to questions not only of copyright and technology but about social good and morality, believe it or not.  For anyone who&#8217;s done any research on DMCA, it&#8217;s bad whodoo.  Its ostensible aim is to protect artists; it actually helps limit any real creative space in a public commons.  And, yeah, copyright obtains automatically with creation (fixation in a tangible medium) and it was sent as a personal email&#8230;but there is provision for &#8220;newsworthy&#8221; use which I support when the use of images provide a public good which outweighs public privacy&#8211;say, repressed photos of coffins of US soldiers, or even Dateline (which I thought awful and bathetic) which was responding to a perceived &#8220;epidemic&#8221; of internet predators.  He won&#8217;t be able to argue that, though, since he&#8217;s already claimed that he did it as a lark, without forethought, etc. </p>
<p>Still, what really worries me (and I&#8217;m an academic who diggs heavily and studies new media) is the utter lack of charity on this Troll&#8217;s part (I like it as a noun which refers to Fortuny).  Not only this other dude, but likely all or most of his victims&#8217; live were substantially &#8212;-ed (pun intended) because he &#8220;caught them with their pants down.&#8221;  Reminds me of the bully in sixth grade who kicked open the stall door to show the other kids you were doing your business.  I agree, it also smacks of entrapment.  Lastly, it reminds me of the mind-numbingly ignorant beauty contestant who became famous recently&#8211; not just for a week but wherever she goes now.  In a digital age, there&#8217;s a lot to be said for anonymity and forgiveness and charity (the ability to realize how you might identify with the person judged as someone who also makes mistakes and feels pain).  We should remember to remember these things. </p>
<p>And by the way, arguments which suggest that people who disagree with you have &#8220;something to hide&#8221; are fallacious.  They&#8217;re ad hominem attacks.  Unethical and ignorant.  You can read more here: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem</a></p>
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		<title>By: T-bot</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-56987</link>
		<dc:creator>T-bot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethically, there are arguments for and against on each side, but having read through a bunch of stuff about this online, I found myself grinning on more than one occasion. I'm a sucker for a good gag, and let's face it the best gags are always at others' expense. Who would admit to being arrogant who wasn't also base enough to deserve public humiliation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethically, there are arguments for and against on each side, but having read through a bunch of stuff about this online, I found myself grinning on more than one occasion. I&#8217;m a sucker for a good gag, and let&#8217;s face it the best gags are always at others&#8217; expense. Who would admit to being arrogant who wasn&#8217;t also base enough to deserve public humiliation?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-52878</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every comment expressing anger at Jason makes me think the commenter is also  the kind of person who would keep up the sham of having a family while at the same time responding to ads for casual (and violent) sex.  

I don't think the stunt was very nice, but if someone got caught being unfaithful to his wife and sneaking around,  maybe he shouldn't have been doing that in the first place. 

I totally agree that there are so many people who don't realize how much information can be passed around over the internet.  

Also this suit is another example of how lawyers will do anything for a buck.  Who do you think built the case and filed in Illinois.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every comment expressing anger at Jason makes me think the commenter is also  the kind of person who would keep up the sham of having a family while at the same time responding to ads for casual (and violent) sex.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the stunt was very nice, but if someone got caught being unfaithful to his wife and sneaking around,  maybe he shouldn&#8217;t have been doing that in the first place. </p>
<p>I totally agree that there are so many people who don&#8217;t realize how much information can be passed around over the internet.  </p>
<p>Also this suit is another example of how lawyers will do anything for a buck.  Who do you think built the case and filed in Illinois.</p>
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		<title>By: Ednonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-52230</link>
		<dc:creator>Ednonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This became an "educational" endeavour after the lawsuit?
Even the ACLU won't help him.
Hang his lying, misrepresenting ass.
He's lucky to still have teeth with which to chew his food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This became an &#8220;educational&#8221; endeavour after the lawsuit?<br />
Even the ACLU won&#8217;t help him.<br />
Hang his lying, misrepresenting ass.<br />
He&#8217;s lucky to still have teeth with which to chew his food.</p>
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		<title>By: Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51975</link>
		<dc:creator>Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou, you forgot to report the case number and venue for the lawsuit.
It is 08-cv-01050 in the United States District Court, Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division; Joan B. Gottschall presiding. 
The brief in its entirety may be found by contacting the court, or at http://www.courtbriefs.com/pdf_files/USDCNDIL08CV1050.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou, you forgot to report the case number and venue for the lawsuit.<br />
It is 08-cv-01050 in the United States District Court, Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division; Joan B. Gottschall presiding.<br />
The brief in its entirety may be found by contacting the court, or at <a href="http://www.courtbriefs.com/pdf_files/USDCNDIL08CV1050.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.courtbriefs.com/pdf_files/USDCNDIL08CV1050.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carbon Atom</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51647</link>
		<dc:creator>Carbon Atom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I'd love to Fortuny and his ilk fry to the maximum extent, I'm only going to support his punishment for the laws/ToS he was found to have broken. 

Technically, any work is copyrighted when it's first created, but the official filing of the copyright is what makes it more legally defensible in US courts. Either way, considering Fortuny isn't claiming to have "created" this photograph himself, I think the copyright will hold, but maybe not to the full extent of the DMCA (which is mostly a bullshit act anyway). 

However, I would hold Fortuny fully accountable for deliberately disclosing private information obtained through a Craigslist ad. Whether or not it contains John Doe's real name, regular email address, etc. doesn't matter. What does is the fact that he posted a false ad, obtained personal information from people that was meant to be transmitted in private and he posted it to his blog for all the world to see. 

I don't care if JD had marital problems to begin with or that Fortuny is an insufferable troll: at the very least, Fortuny broke Craigslist's ToS. How much monetary damage that translates into remains to be seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I&#8217;d love to Fortuny and his ilk fry to the maximum extent, I&#8217;m only going to support his punishment for the laws/ToS he was found to have broken. </p>
<p>Technically, any work is copyrighted when it&#8217;s first created, but the official filing of the copyright is what makes it more legally defensible in US courts. Either way, considering Fortuny isn&#8217;t claiming to have &#8220;created&#8221; this photograph himself, I think the copyright will hold, but maybe not to the full extent of the DMCA (which is mostly a bullshit act anyway). </p>
<p>However, I would hold Fortuny fully accountable for deliberately disclosing private information obtained through a Craigslist ad. Whether or not it contains John Doe&#8217;s real name, regular email address, etc. doesn&#8217;t matter. What does is the fact that he posted a false ad, obtained personal information from people that was meant to be transmitted in private and he posted it to his blog for all the world to see. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if JD had marital problems to begin with or that Fortuny is an insufferable troll: at the very least, Fortuny broke Craigslist&#8217;s ToS. How much monetary damage that translates into remains to be seen.</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51600</link>
		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man this is awesome, I hope Jason wins! Long live free speech, too bad he lives in the land of the supressed.

I don't see anything wrong or even mildly unfunny about this, morally challenging maybe if you're a prude. Anyone that completely disregards personal privacy and safety as these guys did deserve to be ridiculed online that's what the internet is for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man this is awesome, I hope Jason wins! Long live free speech, too bad he lives in the land of the supressed.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anything wrong or even mildly unfunny about this, morally challenging maybe if you&#8217;re a prude. Anyone that completely disregards personal privacy and safety as these guys did deserve to be ridiculed online that&#8217;s what the internet is for!</p>
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		<title>By: hardvice</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51580</link>
		<dc:creator>hardvice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It always amazes me how people are so unable to separate a desirable outcome from an undesirable process.  Even if you think Jason deserves to be "punished", the legal ramifications of this case are nothing but scary.  

But people get so caught up in the idea of a "bad guy" getting what he "deserves" that they ignore the fact that the service of process, venue, and causes of action in this case are all laughably preposterous and, if accepted, would set a devastating precedent for future Internet cases, where the defendant might not be someone so easy to paint as a villain.  Like you, maybe.

Think about this case with your heads, not your hearts.  This is bad, bad law, pure and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It always amazes me how people are so unable to separate a desirable outcome from an undesirable process.  Even if you think Jason deserves to be &#8220;punished&#8221;, the legal ramifications of this case are nothing but scary.  </p>
<p>But people get so caught up in the idea of a &#8220;bad guy&#8221; getting what he &#8220;deserves&#8221; that they ignore the fact that the service of process, venue, and causes of action in this case are all laughably preposterous and, if accepted, would set a devastating precedent for future Internet cases, where the defendant might not be someone so easy to paint as a villain.  Like you, maybe.</p>
<p>Think about this case with your heads, not your hearts.  This is bad, bad law, pure and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Foster Foskin</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51577</link>
		<dc:creator>Foster Foskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortuny is just another asshole. I hope the judge takes him to the cleaners. It is obvious he was out to 'out' people and cause them embarrassment at the very least. Rot in hell scammer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortuny is just another asshole. I hope the judge takes him to the cleaners. It is obvious he was out to &#8216;out&#8217; people and cause them embarrassment at the very least. Rot in hell scammer!</p>
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		<title>By: ClownSoup</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51561</link>
		<dc:creator>ClownSoup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ George Says: "I hope this kid looses every penny. What he did was simply malicious and harmful. I think he should be in jail for the next 10 years for what he’s done"

Got something to hide George?  
If some perv responds to a fake sex ad and then bitches because his family found out - who is the real criminal?  Is it the perv that with malicious intent deceived his family as to his true nature or the poster of the false information that has lured a despicable adulterer to his doorstep?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ George Says: &#8220;I hope this kid looses every penny. What he did was simply malicious and harmful. I think he should be in jail for the next 10 years for what he’s done&#8221;</p>
<p>Got something to hide George?<br />
If some perv responds to a fake sex ad and then bitches because his family found out - who is the real criminal?  Is it the perv that with malicious intent deceived his family as to his true nature or the poster of the false information that has lured a despicable adulterer to his doorstep?</p>
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		<title>By: Brock Lesnar</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51551</link>
		<dc:creator>Brock Lesnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoist on his own petard! Forsooth and alas.

HAW!:) 

Love watching scum like Fortuny earn such public demise... Ironically his little experiment proved a few things he hadn't counted on.  Sweet irony! Hee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoist on his own petard! Forsooth and alas.</p>
<p>HAW!:) </p>
<p>Love watching scum like Fortuny earn such public demise&#8230; Ironically his little experiment proved a few things he hadn&#8217;t counted on.  Sweet irony! Hee.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeroization &#8250; Jason Fortuny Sued</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51550</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeroization &#8250; Jason Fortuny Sued</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] publicity, this time of the unwanted variety. 10 Zen Monkey&#8217;s reports that Jason Fortuny is being sued by one of the victims of his &#8220;Craig&#8217;s List [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] publicity, this time of the unwanted variety. 10 Zen Monkey&#8217;s reports that Jason Fortuny is being sued by one of the victims of his &#8220;Craig&#8217;s List [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Mechanical Eye</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51505</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mechanical Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Your comments make me wonder if any of you have skeletons on the internet you’re afraid of coming out."

Defending trolling with more trolling doesn't seem particularly effective to me.

DU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your comments make me wonder if any of you have skeletons on the internet you’re afraid of coming out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Defending trolling with more trolling doesn&#8217;t seem particularly effective to me.</p>
<p>DU</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51501</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chad, what a load a bull. John Doe got what he deserved. No one enticed him to visit the hookup section of Craigslist to look for a casual sex. The fact of the matter is that Fortuny's fake ad caught John Doe's attention, and Doe decided to respond to it. It exposes Doe as someone who goes online looking for casual sex. Big deal. He did it, and he should own up to it. He's just pissed off his little secret got out and wants someone to pay.

Likewise, with Dateline's "To Catch A Predator", the sex offenders on that show make a choice to go to an internet chat room, make sexual comments to a minor while online, and then travel to the minor's home. While you are right that there is no hard evidence they were going to follow through with anything at the minor's home, it still exposes the fact that most of these men have solicited someone they believe to be a minor through a chat room.

For those of you who want Fortuny to lose this case, you should realize that the internet is not in any way a private place. Everything a person says or does on the internet can come back to haunt them. Your comments make me wonder if any of you have skeletons on the internet you're afraid of coming out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad, what a load a bull. John Doe got what he deserved. No one enticed him to visit the hookup section of Craigslist to look for a casual sex. The fact of the matter is that Fortuny&#8217;s fake ad caught John Doe&#8217;s attention, and Doe decided to respond to it. It exposes Doe as someone who goes online looking for casual sex. Big deal. He did it, and he should own up to it. He&#8217;s just pissed off his little secret got out and wants someone to pay.</p>
<p>Likewise, with Dateline&#8217;s &#8220;To Catch A Predator&#8221;, the sex offenders on that show make a choice to go to an internet chat room, make sexual comments to a minor while online, and then travel to the minor&#8217;s home. While you are right that there is no hard evidence they were going to follow through with anything at the minor&#8217;s home, it still exposes the fact that most of these men have solicited someone they believe to be a minor through a chat room.</p>
<p>For those of you who want Fortuny to lose this case, you should realize that the internet is not in any way a private place. Everything a person says or does on the internet can come back to haunt them. Your comments make me wonder if any of you have skeletons on the internet you&#8217;re afraid of coming out.</p>
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		<title>By: AwesomeX</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51497</link>
		<dc:creator>AwesomeX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, 2yrs on and I'm still interested in how this pans out. I fear someone may feel the need to make an example of Jason, but you have to admire he has balls (There's evidence out there:-) and he's defending himself too (possibly his downfall :-( 

Didn't John Doe and co. just get caught with their pants down (quite literally in some cases:-)?

The Copyright issue doesn't seem appropriate, just an attempt to 'get him' on a technicality, ...sour grapes anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, 2yrs on and I&#8217;m still interested in how this pans out. I fear someone may feel the need to make an example of Jason, but you have to admire he has balls (There&#8217;s evidence out there:-) and he&#8217;s defending himself too (possibly his downfall :-( </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t John Doe and co. just get caught with their pants down (quite literally in some cases:-)?</p>
<p>The Copyright issue doesn&#8217;t seem appropriate, just an attempt to &#8216;get him&#8217; on a technicality, &#8230;sour grapes anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Che</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51491</link>
		<dc:creator>Che</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, come on, really. John Doe got what he deserved, really and so did Fortuny. The prank was malicious, but I fund some sick humor in it. God damn it, people, these guys are complete idiots! They fell for such an obvious lie, they sent pics of their dicks for crying out loud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, come on, really. John Doe got what he deserved, really and so did Fortuny. The prank was malicious, but I fund some sick humor in it. God damn it, people, these guys are complete idiots! They fell for such an obvious lie, they sent pics of their dicks for crying out loud.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/#comment-51483</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who think John Doe got what he deserved, you are making a huge assumption. If he had not made this offer, John Doe might have had a long, happy marriage with a loving family and never have cheated. Perhaps he was even looking for an ego stroke but would have never gone through with it. We don't know. That's why entrapment is morally wrong, including things like Dateline's "To Catch a Predator". 

Tempting someone into something they might not have otherwise done, and then claiming you have "exposed" them as "that type of person" is all wrong. Which one among you can claim you could never be tempted into doing, or at least considering enough to investigate, something that you wouldn't normally do? No matter what the reward offered? Isn't this what the movie Indecent Proposal made us think about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who think John Doe got what he deserved, you are making a huge assumption. If he had not made this offer, John Doe might have had a long, happy marriage with a loving family and never have cheated. Perhaps he was even looking for an ego stroke but would have never gone through with it. We don&#8217;t know. That&#8217;s why entrapment is morally wrong, including things like Dateline&#8217;s &#8220;To Catch a Predator&#8221;. </p>
<p>Tempting someone into something they might not have otherwise done, and then claiming you have &#8220;exposed&#8221; them as &#8220;that type of person&#8221; is all wrong. Which one among you can claim you could never be tempted into doing, or at least considering enough to investigate, something that you wouldn&#8217;t normally do? No matter what the reward offered? Isn&#8217;t this what the movie Indecent Proposal made us think about?</p>
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		<title>By: 4chanissofunnyrightlaffo</title>
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		<dc:creator>4chanissofunnyrightlaffo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>throw the FUCKING book at him, what a worthless human being, he did it simply out of boredom and to satfisy his own sick sense of humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>throw the FUCKING book at him, what a worthless human being, he did it simply out of boredom and to satfisy his own sick sense of humor.</p>
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