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		<title>Why Thomas S. Roche Dreams of a Zombie Apocalypse</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why the prolific author sees sex, lies, videotape <em>and zombies</em> in our dystopian, new media future &#8212; and what he's learned today about violence, gender, paranormal phenomenon, and WikiLeaks. <strong>By&#160;Destiny</strong>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<center><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1597802905/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399373&#038;creativeASIN=1597802905"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Thomas%20S%20Roche%20-%20author%20of%20the%20zombie%20horror%20novel%20The%20Panama%20Laugh.jpg" width=468></A><br/><br/>
<em><font size=2>The gonzo author (inset) meets the cover of<br/>his <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1597802905/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399373&#038;creativeASIN=1597802905">newly-published novel The Panama Laugh</A></font></em></center><br/><br/>



<strong>Zombies! Brains! Zombies! </stronG> It's the first novel ever published by author Thomas S. Roche.
<br/><br/>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1597802905/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399373&#038;creativeASIN=1597802905"><em>The Panama Laugh</em></A> opens with a punch &mdash; literally &mdash; before launching into an unrelenting onslaught of dangerous crimelords, soldiers of fortune, radical fringe groups, and yes, <em>zombies!!!</em> There's a global throwdown with moments of weapons porn &mdash; like hijacked nuclear-powered warships and deadly remote surveillance drones &mdash; while radical fringe survivors may be holed up in "the Armory" in San Francisco (a real-life building owned by Kink.com). 
<br/><br/>
It's Roche's very first novel &mdash; or at least, the first novel published under his own name.  (There's also hundreds of horror, crime, fantasy, and, yes, erotic short stories and books that he's written under pseudonyms). Maybe the real question is what makes a man write an "after the apocalypse" zombie novel &mdash; after hundreds of hours of writing porn? Combined with a lifelong obsession with vintage pulp fiction, the end result is an original, daring and thoroughly-researched "debut apocalypse," a 300-page buzzsaw that one Barnes and Noble reviewer called simply <a href="http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Explorations-The-BN-SciFi-and/If-Maggots-Could-Laugh-Roche-s-Debut-is-quot-In-Your-Face-quot/ba-p/1157124">"exceptional."</A>
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I remembered Thomas from his legendary stint as the gonzo technology editor at a web magazine called <a href="http://www.gettingit.com">GettingIt.com,</A> where we'd worked together back in 1999. I decided to track him down for the inside dirt on his mysterious new kick &mdash; and to see just how much fun you can have with the word <em>zombie!</em>
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<strong>10 ZEN MONKEYS:</strong>  Is there something millenarian in the zeitgeist now &mdash; some universal sense of doom, or a desire to laugh and secede from humanity?  I'm sorry &mdash; every question I'd ask you suddenly seems tainted with a dark obscenity whenever I add the word zombie.  "Where do you get your inspiration for your novels...about <em>zombies?</em> Will you be writing a sequel...about <em>zombies?</em> How do you celebrate finishing your first novel...about <em>zombies?"</em>  

<br/><br/><strong>THOMAS S. ROCHE: </strong>Isn't <em>everything</em> about zombies? 
<BR/><BR/>
I just go ape-shit over good zombie apocalypses. I love them; they're one of my favorite genres. I read a lot and watch a lot and just completely groove on all the incredible creativity involved in zombie walks, all the viral zombie websites and social-networking stuff, all the in-jokes for zombie fans...I just love it. It's a template that takes on so many wonderful forms! 
<BR/><BR/>
I feel like some of the zombie novels published in the last five years were jumping on a bandwagon. But I'm not going to badmouth them because that's essentially what I was doing, even though it's a bandwagon I've more or less been on for 20 years ever since I read the first <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/193545823X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399373&#038;creativeASIN=193545823X"><em>Book of the Dead</em>,</A> which is one of the two best zombie books ever published (the other being Max Brooks' <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307888681/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399373&#038;creativeASIN=0307888681"><em>World War Z</em></A>). I think <em>Night of the Living Dead</em> is one of the greatest and one of the most important films ever released. I love <em>Dawn of the Dead</em> and <em>Day of the Dead</em> and <em>Land of the Dead</em>. And I go nuts over the <em>Resident Evil</em> movies even in the slow parts. I adore <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000V4UH08/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399373&#038;creativeASIN=B000V4UH08"><em>Fido</em>.</A>  I want to grow up to <em>be</em> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I8OOI8/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399369&#038;creativeASIN=B000I8OOI8"><em>Frankenhooker</em>.</A>
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<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   So <em>will</em> you be writing a sequel to your novel about zombies? Maybe "The Panama Laugh Zombies Strike Back"?</em> 

<br/><br/><strong>TSR:</strong>  
That is actually a question for the publisher. I already know what happens next &mdash; but I'm not talking unless somebody pays me! 

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   Spoken like a true pulp fiction fan... 

<br/><br/><strong>TSR:</strong>   I'm hoping there <em>will</em> be a sequel, because the story's really not finished. There are about a thousand threads that lead into other parts of my science fiction mythology &mdash; some of them red herrings. Everything I write in the science fiction, fantasy, or horror genre relates to everything else I write in those genres, so the characters, institutions and situations show up elsewhere. I already know what happens &mdash; but the cats need kibble, so I'm not talking unless the money's on the nightstand! <br/><br/>Did I mention writing a mercenary character came kinda natural to me?
 
<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   I can already see the influence of all those vintage crime novels. So how <em>did</em> you celebrate finishing your first novel...about <em>zombies?</em>

<br/><br/><strong>TSR:</strong>   I don't think I celebrate, ever. Sorry. When I turned it in, I probably went home and tried to figure out how to pay my rent. I probably read CNN and wept bitterly about the direction our country is going.  Maybe if it was a good day, I let myself read an early '60s crime novel instead of trying to work on the next project that might pay me $25 or $50 in an attempt to afford some food...

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>  And then months later, you're a star! A zombie star, with your name on thousands on horror book covers &mdash; along with gorgeous artwork visualizing the doomsday you'd only imagined. How'd it feel to finally see your novel getting a full-color, fantasy-style illustration?
<br/><br/>
<strong>TSR:</STRONG> I just can't even begin to describe how thrilled I was to see such a spot-on representation of what I wanted my book to feel like &mdash; at least, the post-apocalyptic segments. Some of the earlier segments might have been a bit more Dick Tracy. But as for the scenes in San Francisco, cover artist Lucas Graziano nailed it, beautifully &mdash; and it even has the leopard-print zeppelin! I've never been so thrilled. 

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   But you <em>always</em> write about such wild subjects. It's hard to believe you've never gotten the <em>Heavy Metal</em> treatment before. 

<BR/><BR/><strong>TSR:</strong>   I believe there have been only two other times original art has been commissioned from my work. One of them was the short story "Anthony," about a doomed punk sex-addicted dildo who gets hooked on mainlining oil-based lubricants. It was turned into a comic book by my friend Anna Costa, in 1992, for a magazine called Puppytoss. (No puppies were actually tossed, don't worry &mdash; we weren't <em>that</em> punk). The second time was the story "Headturner," which I co-wrote with Kevin Andrew Murphy, which was illustrated for an issue of Glen Danzig's <em>Verotika</em> comic book. That was more than a decade ago! 

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   It's still hard to believe, since you've written a <em>bunch</em> of great zombie stories already. (And is it true that some of them are about sex?)
<BR/><BR/><strong>TSR:</strong>   
My pre-<em>Panama Laugh</em> zombie mythology isn't about sex, but it's about sexuality...homophobia specifically. The zombie short stories I have written have just been re-released individually for Kindle, and you
can see there's even <a href="http://thomasroche.com/2011/10/zombie-bibliography/" target="_blank">a zombie bibliography on my website</a> that links to them.<br/><br/>

My two other zombie mythologies don't overlap with each other or with <em>The Panama Laugh.</em> In one, which I call the "San Esteban Stories," zombies represent denied erotic urges &mdash; violence owing to sexual repression, particularly internalized homophobia. In the San Esteban stories, zombification does not appear to be transmissible. (See <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0060ZJPFK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399373&#038;creativeASIN=B0060ZJPFK">The Sound of Weeping</A> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0060ZFMNO/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399373&#038;creativeASIN=B0060ZFMNO">Veggie Mountain</A>.)
<BR/><BR/>
There's also another lengthy screenplay on that theme that <em>may</em> become a novel, that's never been published because I only finish novels when people come over to my house and kick me. 

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   So what happened when you sat down for your full-length zombie-fighting novel? What kind of zombification did you pull out for <em>The Panama Laugh?</em>

<BR/><BR/><strong>TSR:</strong>   It has a similar thematic intention, but it's not about sex. Two other stories, the podcast <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0060ZFKZY/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399373&#038;creativeASIN=B0060ZFKZY">"St. John of the Throwdown"</A> and the novella <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159780312X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399373&#038;creativeASIN=159780312X">Deepwater Miracle</A> exist in that universe. My story <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0060ZFPG8/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399373&#038;creativeASIN=B0060ZFPG8">Viva Las Vegas</A> is a totally different mythology, because it was originally written as a submission for Skipp &#038; Spector's <em>Book of the Dead 4</em>, so it's concretely Romeroesque, meaning George Romero, more than the others. Its main character is very similar in voice to the Dante Bogart character in <em>The Panama Laugh</em>.

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   I'm remembering that you do a lot of work for charity &mdash; and some of it's pretty sexy! Literally &mdash; like, you've taught at <a href="http://www.sfsi.org" target="_blank">San Francisco Sex Information</a> since the 1990s, and  four years ago, you were even involved in the San Francisco iteration of an event called <a href="http://www.drsketchy.com" target="_blank">Dr. Sketchy's Anti-Art School</a>, where even amateur non-artists get to draw sketches of naked models. So what ties all this together? What's the motivation?  

<BR/><BR/><strong>TSR:</strong>   I think it's an impulse toward the Bohemian. I'm easily bored!
<BR/><BR/>
I've given informational lectures on such diverse topic as anal sex, oral sex, sex, gender and orientation, transgender surgery and other transgender procedures, intersex issues and disorders of sex development, BDSM and D/s theory and etiquette, necrophilia, bestiality, fisting, group sex, fetishism and fetish dressing, infantilism and age play, recovery from sexual abuse, and about a dozen other topics, as well as facilitating small groups and workshops. At SFSI, the goal is to have our trainees prepared to discuss any sexual topic in informational terms, so we cover a broad range. 

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   I'll say! I just remember a very "sex positive" vibe at one of the Dr. Sketchy events I attended. You've got ladies taking off their clothes for a roomful of gawking geek voyeurs, week after week....
<BR/><BR/>
<strong>TSR:</strong>   
Doing Dr. Sketchy's was wonderful. Models would come and get naked but be wearing clown makeup, balloon animal hats, Victorian lingerie &mdash; Burning Man type costumes. It was really a blast!
<BR/><BR/>
But I'm not by nature an event manager. So by mutual agreement with the event's New York founder, <a href="http://www.mollycrabapple.com" target="_blank">Molly Crabapple</a>, my co-organizer and I passed the event on to the very capable <a href="http://bombshellbetty.net/" target="_blank">Bombshell Betty</a>.  It's a great event, and it was really fun to do.

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   In real life you're soft-spoken and compassionate, and yet you've seen more than most men will ever see in a lifetime. After synthesizing it all into hundreds of published stories &mdash; including a new violent zombie-fighting novel &mdash; what do you think you've learned...about sex, and about violence?
<br/><br/>
I mean, there's one line in the book that struck me.  The gun-toting scumbag says "Without women, we're monsters &mdash; and we know it, but they don't. We live our lives in fear that they'll find out." I have this theory that it's all related &mdash; that people are now despairing about everything &mdash; government, culture, gender roles &mdash; and they secretly long for a zombie crisis where it all crumbles and gets replaced by something new.

<BR/><BR/>
<strong>TSR:</strong>   I learned a lot, and continue to learn a lot, from the world of trans activism and gender theory. I also think that the "bubble" of a very narrow set of queer-friendly, trans-friendly neighborhoods in San Francisco can serve as an excellent place to stand there and evaluate the gender context of violence, as it relates to the idea of <em>what makes gender in the first place</em>. 
<BR/><BR/>
In the context of the international arena where brutal violence is the order of the day in many post-colonial and neo-colonial nations, I think it's important to consider issues of what tends to bring perceptions of masculinity in line with violent activity. And to do that in a context of knowing that male and female behaviors are often mutable... As an aside, I believe that the fact that men and women tend to &mdash; <em>tend to</em>, mind you, again &mdash; have different ideas about that is one of the reasons it's so important to have women in the military in leadership roles, because gender cues get all mixed up when you're talking about premeditated violence, let alone the kind of confusion that happens in combat. 
<BR/><BR/>
To me, it's critical to have combat decisions made by a pluralistic group with a shared value system that isn't built strictly on machismo. The same is doubly true of law enforcement. In fact, that connection between masculinity and monstrous behavior is probably my primary interest in terms of fiction. My chief fascination has always been with postwar America, and the scars carried by men in my father's generation and a bit older, who fought in World War II and Korea. War requires one to do terrible things, and if any amount of belief in one's principles allows one to forget that, I believe we're in trouble. I'm not going to claim Osama bin Laden or Ghaddafi shouldn't have been killed, but anyone high-fiving about it earns my unremitting revulsion. 
<BR/><BR/>
I would like to see the United States be a little less pleased with itself, and that's some of what <em>The Panama Laugh</em> is about. "The Laugh" is a symbol for everything we're forced to stuff down in order to turn a blind eye to tragedy. When it comes bursting out...<em>ba-da-bing!</em>

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   It seems like some of this novel must've come from all the weird world news you'd covered for &mdash; is it over a year? &mdash; at <a href="http://www.techyum.com/">TechYum.</A> (Besides flying cars and Bigfoot sightings, there's also weaponry, international wars, Fukushima radiation, and "the face of a Norwegian Killer" &mdash; including his Twitter feed....) 

<BR/><BR/>
<strong>TSR:</strong>   Yeah, there's definitely a strong undercurrent of paranormal obsession, and a real obsession with information technology. 
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<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   What about WikiLeaks? You also mention WikiLeaks a lot in your novel.  Has it achieved a mythic status &mdash; and if so, what does it represent?

<BR/><BR/>
<strong>TSR:</strong>   Some of the fringe elements are definitely inspired by Wikileaks and Anonymous. 
<BR/><BR/>
I think those elements arose as an antidote to what I felt was a one-sided vilification in the novel of the American right-wing &mdash; Blackwater, Haliburton and Cheney's cronies. 
I definitely lean more toward the left, and I think Wikileaks represents a very important impulse and the start of a strong movement toward anti-corporate sentiment and the demand for government transparency. (As ineffectual as that movement may end up being &mdash; because it started so late in the process of corporate control being consolidated...)
<BR/><BR/>
But I've also been around leftists for more than twenty years. Some of them are douchebags. I find it far from unthinkable that some leftist depopulation advocates would want to depopulate the globe for environmental reasons, as is one of the possible conspiracies in <em>The Panama Laugh.</em> The paranormal stuff, for me, just makes all that fringe stuff interesting. 

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   Your novel also seems very aware of the latest ways that information gets distributed.  There's viral YouTube videos, conspiracy forums, text messages, and one mysteriously-abandoned laptop. It's the contemporary details that most fiction leaves out, which somehow makes <em>The Panama Laugh</em> feel more real when information about the zombie attacks start turning up at CNN.com. 
<BR/><BR/>

I feel like you and I lived in the center of a new kind of cutting-edge crazy during the dotcom boom, and it's nice to see someone channeling that into cutting-edge fiction. (There's even hacktivists in your book!) So do you sense a "big picture" about what's happening as new technologies come online, both in the U.S. and around the world?

<BR/><BR/>
<strong>TSR:</strong>   I find it very interesting that Africa and South Asia seem to be getting wireless web technologies before they get wired ones. I think that'll affect the computer security environment enormously in the next ten years. And I think there are many very strange social implications for those of us who live our lives mostly online &mdash; good and bad. <br/><br/>

Mostly, good. But I also think the possibility for disinformation is huge, which is some of what this novel is about.

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>  When it came out in September, you did something interesting on the web. You're posting news blurbs &mdash; complete with links to the actual articles &mdash; about events which only happened in your novel. I did a double-take when I saw these headlines:

<blockquote>
       "Terrorist Group" Seizes San Francisco Building<BR/><BR/>
       San Francisco Cryopreservation Foundation Found Liable
</blockquote><BR/>

And on Facebook, your novel also <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Panama-Laugh/108416935927927">has its own page.</A> Even though it's just been released, it's already won awards from...er, wait a minute. These are from your zombie counter-universe again, aren't they?

<blockquote><BR/>
       "2011 Crazed Hippie Disinformation Award" from Virgil Amaro Memorial Association.<BR/><BR/>
       "2011 It's Not Our Fault Award" from Bellona Industries Military Consultation (Juried Award).<BR/><BR/>
       "2011 Involuntary Termination Award" from mysterious international "Depopulation Activist" hacker group DePop Art.<BR/>
</blockquote>

<br/><br/><strong>TSR: </strong>Hah! Definitely, that's all disinformation. The novel is about corporate disinformation &mdash; think of this as my own little attempt to get incorporated. They're all characters and institutions in the novel.


<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   In light of all that, it's funny that there's a disclaimer at the end. "The novel is fiction. Also, zombies aren’t real."  But wasn't it cathartic to describe the ruin and desolation of your old stomping grounds in San Francisco? I mean, you left San Francisco, moved to Sacramento, and then wrote a book where the zombies attack...<eM>San Francisco!</em>

<br/><br/><strong>TSR: </strong>Oh, it wasn't vengeful. I love San Francisco! I was asked to write a zombie apocalypse set there, so I did....though I did it in the most roundabout possible way. It was really interesting to map out a route across a zombie-infested city that I know so well, and to invent all sorts of tunnels and things...
<br/><br/>
And the social stuff is all meant to feel very much like it could've really happened. To me, that makes the apocalyptic elements more interesting.

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>   In the Talmud it says every man, in his life, should write a book. I believe they must've meant "a book about zombies." Imagine describing your home town in ruins &mdash; the police force abandoned, the high school laid to waste, every enemy converted into shambling undead. And not just your enemies &mdash; the whole invisible power structure.  
<BR/><BR/>
But seriously, <em>none</em> of your friends are in the novel?  I'm not sure I could resist the temptation!  That jerk from the apartment upstairs?  Zombie...

<br/><br/><strong>TSR: </strong>There are definitely no real people in the book. Strangely, that's not even a temptation to me. Even where characters are based on figures from the news, they're hybrids of several different people, and the institutions are all mixed up.  
<BR/><BR/>
But there are dozens of Easter eggs to other books I'm working on...all of which concern paranormal stuff, which wouldn't be "real" in the context of the Panama Laugh universe. The only place where a real person showed up, in altered form, in the mythology was in the podcast "St. John of the Throwdown," which was written for Violet Blue to read and as such was inspired by her experience of being a homeless teenager. I wouldn't say that character <em>is</em> Violet, but she's certainly related.

<br/><br/><strong>10Z:</strong>  So what kind of coffee do you have to drink to write about a zombie apocalypse?

<br/><br/><strong>TSR: </strong>Well, Temple has about the best damned coffee you'll ever drink. It's consistently rated highly in national terms.  Of all the things that have been hard for me moving from San Francisco to Sacramento, Temple coffee makes it much easier. Any snotty San Francisco people who want to talk shit about Sacramento can face down a steaming mug of Temple's Ethiopian or Brazil Boa Sorte.
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<em><font size=2>Click here to read Thomas's zombie apocalypse</font></em><br/><br/>
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<strong>Other Interviews:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/10/04/neil-gaiman-has-lost-his-clothes-2/">Neil Gaiman has Lost His Clothes</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/07/03/steve-wozniak-v-stephen-colbert-and-other-pranks/">Steve Wozniak vs. Stephen Colbert &mdash; and Other Pranks</A></br>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/29/wikipedia-jimmy-wales-rusirius-google-objectivism/">Jimmy Wales will Destroy Google</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/03/30/what-happened-to-the-perry-bible-fellowship/">Nicholas Gurewitch: What Happened to the Perry Bible Fellowship?</A><br/>
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<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/08/27/the-dc-madam-speaks/">The D.C. Madam Speaks!</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/10/hallucinogenic-weapons-the-other-chemical-warfare/">James Ketchum: Hallucinogenic Weapons &mdash; the Other Chemical Warfare</A>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/09/18/dc-sex-diarist-bares-it-all/">D.C. Sex Diarist Bares All</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/10/02/beyond-the-zipless-fuck-with-erica-jong/">Beyond the 'Zipless Fuck' with Erica Jong</A>
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		<title>Resurrecting Reznor&#8217;s &#8217;90s Discovery &#8211; Mondo Vanilli (an Interview)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[R.U. Sirius remembers when he recorded an album for Trent Reznor's label as part of an aborted six-album deal for the world's first virtual reality band. <strong>By Lou Cabron</strong>]]></description>
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</center><br/><strong>Let's see if I've got this straight...</strong> <br/><br/>
Once upon a time, there were some bizarre mid-80s songs riffing on the Beatles &mdash; something about the 20th anniversary of the summer of love. They fell into the glow surrounding <em>Mondo 2000</em> magazine, and in a deconstructive burst of creativity, became a flexible vinyl record inside the printed magazine. Almost. But then the same creative team decided to do "something disrespectful and different " to the industrial and acid house music of the mid-90s's &mdash; and then somehow, Trent Reznor gets involved. (At the mansion where Charles Manson murdered Sharon Tate &mdash; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2010/07/02/meeting-trent-reznor-on-x-at-the-sharon-tate-horror-house/">but that's another story.</A>)<br/><br/>
Reznor's label ultimately signed "Mondo Vanilli", but then refused to release their first (and only) album, I.O.U. Babe. Nearly 20 years later that lost album suddenly re-surfaced on the web, crashed all the servers, and then continued falling through time. The whole album is now finally available for downloading for just 50 cents <a href="http://mondovanilli.bandcamp.com/">at BandCamp.com</A> (which also offers a full preview), and re-visiting it all now is like an alternate history of the '90s. R.U. Sirius's original band "The Merry Tweeksters" gets reincarnated into "Mondo Vanilli" while resurrecting some lyrics from Sirius's forgotten '80s band "The Party Dogs" &mdash; and also in the mind-bending mix were a performance artist named Sim1 3Arm with some cool music composed by <a href="http://cheunderground.com/blog/?p=7895">Scrappi DuChamp</A> (and a crazy music theory professor lurking somewhere in the background). <br/><br/>
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But the band hoped to pioneered what every '90s visionary would later prescribe &mdash; virtual reality.  Mondo Vanilli's shows dispensed with the cliched self-indulgent ritual of an actual performance, and instead inadvertently preserved what the <a href="http://unheard78.blogspot.com/2011/05/ru-sirius-on-mondo-vanilli-and-music.html">"Unheard Music" blog</a> called "A lost artifact from the heady cyberdaze of the 1990s Bay Area." And in another web miracle, the voices behind this virtual phenomenon have impossibly become real again. Just as mysteriously, R.U. Sirius materialized before me, and began explaining what it all means.<br/><br/>

<strong>10 Zen Monkeys:</strong> You were eyeing a six-album deal with Reznor's label at one point. Was that as exciting as it sounds?
<br/><br/>
<strong>RU SIRIUS:</strong> Suddenly, we were confronted with the idea of a serious major rock career.  Would I be the first mildly overweight, weird-looking lead singer to launch into rock stardom at 41 years old?  Anything seemed possible.  On the other hand, the contract locked us in to a record company for a long time and it looked ugly.   So anything also seemed <u>im</u>possible.
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong> But you were also looking at touring nationally as a breakthrough performance art "phenomenon".  So what kind of cyber-fame visions were sparkling in your eyes?

<br/><br/>
<strong>RU:</strong> 
We were asked about touring.  I don't believe there had ever been a
touring rock band that eschewed ordinary performance in an absolute
sense.  Maybe The Residents, but they were sort of more outside
traditional rock, musically.  We began to daydream about something on
a Robert Wilson scale and sent along a proposal for the theatrical
presentation to the record company, which I'm sure scared the crap
out of them.  
<br/><br/>
If I remember, we also suggested that rather than tour like a band, we would tour like a theater group.   So we could do a few weeks in San Francisco and a few weeks in NYC...  that sort of thing.  There was no context for any of this within the usual and very inflexible routines involved in promoting a new rock band. I'm sure it would have made more sense just to give in and get a bunch of supporting musicians together and just do an ordinary theatrical rock show with some non-ordinary lip sync-ish type elements in which the band completely disappears from stage for periods in favor of something else.
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong> So ultimately you'd use virtual reality to become virtual stars? 
<br/><br/>
<strong>RU:</strong> As far as cyber-fame visions and all that, it was all so experimental
and seat-of-the-pants making it up as we went along that it was hard
to really envision it all, but our agent was pretty experienced and
thought we were going to be successful.  And we were being asked to
think about music videos, a conventional and popular medium that I
think we could have used to great advantage.  Some people thought
Thanx! would be a hit.  I may have been a one hit wonder... which, if
you've ever had DMT, is all you need.
<br/><br/>

<strong>10Z:</strong> So will this music ever finally be released as a CD?
<br/><br/>
<strong>RU:</strong> As a matter of fact, a CD <em>is</em> going to be available in about a month, and if people drop me a line I'll put them on a list for it.  (To this address:  Sirioso @ Yahoo . com ).
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  Is Mondo Vanilli's music even more relevant today?
Or if I said that, would you accuse me of just being polite?
<br/><br/>
<strong>RU:</strong> Conceptually, Mondo Vanilli might be less relevant in the sense that you've already had something like the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fentity%2FGorillaz%2FB000AR7ZLA%2Fdigital%3Fie%3DUTF8%26ref_%3Dntt_mp3_rdr%26sn%3Dd%23&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957">Gorillaz</A>… also Milli Vanilli has faded somewhat as a historical sign post and one of them committed suicide.  Also, there's more hostility now towards the sort of reflexive irony and postmodernism that we were playing around with then.  I don't think I would choose to do Mondo Vanilli now.  I mean, I'll do it right now if there's a demand for it, but it's not something I would come up with today.

<br/><br/>
And some of the lyrics are dated.  "President Groovy lobs another bomb / I'm gonna help Prince make a CD ROM / Sitting in the dark with my modem and my gun / We're gonna stay in tonight Rosey and make that data highway run."
<br/><br/>


Actually, there's a funny story behind the Prince and the CD ROM line.  One of his "people" —  a middle aged, very straight and uptight looking white dude with an attaché case, as a matter of fact — came up to Mondo 2000 to learn what he could about this whole "cyberculture" thing, because Prince wanted to make a CD ROM.  This was after I'd already quit the magazine, but I happened to go up to the house that day to hang out and discovered this meeting would occur.  It turned out that Madonna's people had been around just a few days earlier to get cyber hip.  <br/><br/>Meanwhile, this was a particularly desultory period around Mondo.  There was a super-weird vibe around.  So the guy (who shall remain nameless, but let's call him Jasper) who was the point man for organizing this meeting with Prince's representative was drunk.  And I remember sitting there with the rep after he'd shown up in the living room of this second Mondo house that had been established down the street from the original…  and there were maybe a couple of other Mondo people who had come by for the meeting, but nobody came in to speak to the guy… they all went upstairs, and there were slamming doors and slurry words and weird noises emanating from above.  And I just sat there in front of this poor guy just sort of smirking.  <br/><br/>I think maybe after about a half hour, people came into the room and "Jasper" introduced himself and there was this sort of meandering and pointless conversation.  It was pretty hilarious. I didn't say a fucking word the whole time.

<br/><br/>


Anyway, back to Mondo Vanilli… people seem to like the music more now than they did then.  I think there might be two reasons for that.  For one, people were much more purist about their genre identities back then… and we were all over the place.  I actually thought I was being original when I described us as genre benders.  It actually seemed like a real challenge to some types of subcultural conformity.  Now, pretty much everybody's eclectic, probably because of this tremendous access to all sorts of music.  <br/><br/>Secondly, people expected a certain thing from me back in 1993 or '94. It would either be a musical hacker manifesto or it would be groovy raver positivism, but it would have something to do with how they thought about Mondo 2000.  And this album was off on a weird angle, lyrically and musically. I used to tell myself that it was a great album but it wasn't a match to anything that anybody wanted.  I think that was probably true. It was an orphaned act of creativity.
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<strong>10Z:</strong> You told one interviewer that most of the audience seemed to hate your experimental live shows. Some guy described one particularly amazing performance (in the <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/16/mondo-vanilli-ru-sir.html#comment-1111738">comments on an article</A> at Boing Boing about IOU Babe). He wrote:
<blockquote>I don't know if it was a Mondo Vanilli performance, since Sirius was the only name/face I recognized, but it was a trio of him, another man, and a woman, so chances are good.
<br/><br/>

… I think the second guy was singing, or yelling, or something, but it's a blur compared to what I vividly remember: R.U. Sirius sitting in a crib, clad only in a diaper, smearing chocolate 'poop' all over himself and crying for his mama. 'Mama,' meanwhile, had removed her pants and was plucking hardboiled eggs out of an Easter basket, inserting them into her vagina, and then 'laying' them on a plate outside the crib.
<br/><br/>

I witnessed this in silent awe, standing no more than 5 feet away from the players in this narrow little shotgun-apartment gallery with maybe 15 other young confused hipsters, for 20 or 30 minutes. When things looked like they were about to take a turn towards 'audience participation,' however, I quietly but willfully made a beeline for the exit.
<br/><br/>

It HAD to have been a prank performance, a spoof on the grand folly of bad performance art, because otherwise, if it was sincere, it was the wankiest pile of poo I've ever witnessed. But at least it gave me a great ' And that's when I realized I was truly in San Francisco' story.
</blockquote>
<br/><br/>

So… do you remember that?
<br/><br/>

<strong>RU:</strong> Yes.  It was Sim1's "Send Me To Paradise" performance at Art Attack.  It wasn't an official Mondo Vanilli show.  We didn't use Mondo Vanilli music, but we were all involved.  Actually, the crib — which had spikes pointed inward — was on one side of the space, near the window, and Sim1 was several yards away in front of most of the audience, so she wasn't actually "laying eggs" in front of me.  I don't remember much audience participation.  I do remember that guys came close to Sim1 after awhile and started doing something… maybe fondling the eggs!
<br/><br/>

Sim1's performances were always funny… and that was their intention, other than the presentation of a sort of series of tableaus. It was like viewing a series of surrealist paintings, most of them involving sexuality or excrement.
<br/><br/>

Her crib remained in the Art Attack gallery window for a while and caused some protest from socially responsible types.
<br/><br/>


<strong>10Z:</strong> What other performances did you guys do that caused trouble?
<br/><br/>

<strong>RU:</strong> I think there were some bits of trouble that I've forgotten, but I don't remember much specifically.  David Pescovitz (from Boing Boing) told me that a woman he knew was so offended by Sim1's part of a Mondo Vanilli performance at Café Du Nord that she kicked over a can of paint.  I don't remember that happening, but I remember that this really valuable lambskin coat with a fur collar that used to make me look rich and dignified (which I bought for only $80 at a girlfriend's insistence.  She kept on whispering to me that it was worth like $800) got soaked with white paint when I was moving stuff off the stage after the show.  That single act might have wrecked my potential life as an elegantly wasted entrepreneur, now that I think about it.
<br/><br/>

We did a performance titled "Eat Cake" at the new age Whole Life Expo that went over like a lead balloon.  I don't think anybody liked that one!
<br/><br/>


<strong>10Z:</strong> Will these stories be part of the <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1502076070/mondo-2000-an-open-source-history">MONDO 2000 History Project</A>… and how is that going?
<br/><br/>


<strong>RU:</strong> Absolutely. I'm sure there are some funny stories that other people can fill in.  The History Project is going pretty well.  I think I can complete it within the two years deadline I set for it.  I recently had a breakthrough regarding how to write my own memory fragments…  Basically, if I give each memory fragment a colorful title, it inspires me to tell the story as a story and to have fun with the language.  I just figured that out a couple of weeks ago.

<br/><br/>


<strong>10Z:</strong> Why do you think Trent Reznor wanted to sign you guys to his record label and why do you think you never heard from him after the whole thing crashed?

<br/><br/>
<strong>RU:</strong> Well, I should mention that he'd taken shrooms at the party so that might have entered into his good feelings about our demo tape and promotional package.  The promo package was pretty audacious and absurdist.  He might have been swayed by the affected arrogance and the real disrespect for record industry conventions.  And it was a good demo tape!  It had versions of Thanx!, Love is the Product, and Wraparound World on it.  It was good shit.
<br/><br/>

He was still excited about us after the psilocybin wore off.
<br/><br/>

Who's to say what happened after, aside from the situation with Interscope, which I don't blame him for.  Maybe he didn't really get the album, as a whole.  We heard he liked some of it.  He also went into a well-publicized… ahem… downward spiral around that time.  And we did make merciless fun of him for a few years after it all happened.  He may have seen the "Keane painting" that Scrappi made of him, which we had online. Sad big-eyed Trent, with the text "Take a walk down lonely street" on it.  We were pretty mean!  <em>(Laughter)</em>
<br/><br/>
<center><img src="http://destinyland.org/images/Lonely_Street_Trent_Reznor.jpg"></center>
<br/><br/>


<strong>10Z:</strong> You're a pretty big Reznor fan, aren't you?
<br/><br/>

<strong>RU:</strong> I'm a medium-sized Reznor fan.  I really loved <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DE4CI0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399349&#038;creativeASIN=B004DE4CI0">Pretty Hate Machine</A> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000001Y5Z/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=217145&#038;creative=399349&#038;creativeASIN=B000001Y5Z">The Downward Spiral.</A> But to me, all the stuff since then seems like more of the same.  I know that fans and critics all say, "Oh, he's changed so much," but I don't see it.  Scrappi used to say that he should show some real flexibility and do an album that's totally pop.  I think he could do a great one.  That would be really interesting.
<br/><br/>


<strong>10Z:</strong> Is there anything about your dealings with Nothing Records that you would add to your previous interview on <a href="http://unheard78.blogspot.com/2011/05/ru-sirius-on-mondo-vanilli-and-music.html">Unheard Music</A>?
<br/><br/>


<strong>RU:</strong>Yeah, the weirdest thing was what happened after the record was completed and the Nothing management suggested that we should have a manager.  So after we approached a few people we knew who turned out to not be available, we asked the record label for advice.  And they put us in touch with Olga Girard, who was the ex-wife of Trent's road manager, Gerry Gerard!  She was managing Monster Magnet at the time, and maybe a few other bands... I don't remember.  But she went to L.A. for a couple of weeks, and it was either right after or during the time when we were let go by Nothing Records.  <br/><br/>And when she returned, naturally we were hoping she could use her influence and do some battle for us.  And she told us something had happened in L.A. that made her decide to quit the music industry entirely.  She wouldn't say what happened, but she said it didn't have anything to do with us.  And she did quit the music industry, totally, and wouldn't really communicate with us at all.  A total paranoid breakdown.  Maybe the Illuminati got to her!  They're tryin' to keep R.U. Sirius down, man!
<br/><br/>





<strong>10Z:</strong> Isn't it weird how the actual music industry has changed so much (with people downloading individual songs from iTunes, listening alone on their iPods...)

<br/><br/>



<strong>RU:</strong> It is all very strange.  Is this what we wrought? I like the idea of an album.  A song like "Free From Head" probably doesn't have much resonance unless you're listening to "IOU Babe" in its entirety.  I mean, it has a nice jazzy feel, but what the fuck is it?  If you're listening to the whole thing though, it's an important part of the atmospherics and the gender dialectics.

<br/><br/>


But I think there are a lot of generous open-minded people out there now who will listen to an album as an album if you tell them that's your intention.  I remember maybe about 10 years ago, Lou Reed was ridiculed for telling people that his latest album release should be listened to as an album and not just scavenged for songs.  I think more people are much more willing to be appreciative of what someone is trying to do now.  The knee jerk snarkiness of generation X has been modulated a bit... no thanx to Mondo Vanilli, of course!

<br/><br/>



<strong>10Z:</strong> What would've happened if Mondo Vanilli had gone on American Idol? (Or America's Got Talent...)
<br/><br/>


<strong>RU:</strong> Many televisions would have bullet holes in them.
<br/><br/>


<strong>10Z:</strong> Are you surprised that downloads of the 20-year-old album have exceeded the bandwidth capacity at the web site that had been hosting their big comeback?

<br/><br/>
<strong>RU:</strong> It was a shocker when the release on BandCamp went onto Boing Boing and we discovered that we couldn't give everybody the free copy we'd promised.  Now we're used to it and growing fond of the 50 cents apiece.  Hmmm, 50 cents.  Maybe "Get Sick or High Crying" should be the name of the Mondo
Vanilli comeback album.


<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong> How do you feel looking back on it now...
<br/><br/>

<strong>RU:</strong> Nauseous.
<br/><br/>
No, actually Mondo Vanilli was a lot of fun. There was a whole lotta laughing going on.  I do think I should've been a rock star. I'll just say that flat out, even though it's both a cliché and a bit of a taboo within countercultural circles.  I think it fits my personality.  <br/><br/>
I think the world would have gotten more from me, in the long run, if I could have been even more self indulgent!
<BR/><br/>
<strong>See Also:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2010/07/02/meeting-trent-reznor-on-x-at-the-sharon-tate-horror-house/">Meeting Trent Reznor on X at the Sharon Tate Horror House</A><br/>
<a href="http://mondovanilli.bandcamp.com/">Hear Mondo Vanilli on BandCamp</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1502076070/mondo-2000-an-open-source-history">The Mondo 2000 History Project</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2010/06/08/introducing-the-mondo-2000-history-project/">Introducing the Mondo 2000 History Project</A><br/>
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<strong>As America settles in tonight</strong> for the 45th broadcast of "A Charlie Brown Christmas," 
YouTube is revealing one of Charlie Brown's strangest secrets. <br/><br/>Though it was the first
animated <em>Peanuts</em> special, it followed a six-year period where the whole gang 
was recording commercials for Ford Motor Vehicles.<br/><br/>


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Year after year, Ford cranked out animated <em>Peanuts</em> advertisements for their cars, plus a Ford-sponsored variety show (that was hosted by Tennessee Ernie Ford). Was Schulz finally getting back at his advertisers through <em>A Charlie Brown Christmas</em>?
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<div class="breakhead">Early Charlie Brown ads</div>
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&raquo; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EHtX2FEVyA&#038;feature=related">First <em>Peanuts</em> Ford ad: 1959</A><br/>
&raquo; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u43ExlkXmQs&#038;feature=related">Snoopy and the '61 Ford Falcon</A><br/>
&raquo; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6nYyglOqa8&#038;NR=1">Schroeder and "The Ford Show"</A><br/>
&raquo; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBk55rPE01U&#038;feature=related">Charlie Brown/Ford ad: 1964</A><br/>
&raquo; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nndFzfzI1Ik&#038;feature=fvst">Lucy suggests Ford ads on kite</A><br/>


</div>
</div>In a strange twist, the Ford ad campaign itself was originally the idea of a small child, 
according to Lee Mendelson's 2000 book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006076659X?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=006076659X">A Charlie Brown Christmas: The Making of a Tradition</A>.
An advertising agency executive had brought his young granddaughter to work, and when she'd overheard he was looking for a new character to endorse Ford's cars, she'd suggested, "Why don't you use <em>Peanuts</em>?" Then the grown-ups got involved, and eventually Schulz himself had said, 'Sure, I don't mind doing that because the only car I've ever driven was a Ford." <br/><br/>
In fact, one of the first cartoons was about advertising itself. "Why don't you write some advertising on your kite, and sell it to the people at Ford," Lucy suggests to Charlie Brown...
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But you have to wonder if Schulz secretly felt ambivalent about the cartoons. When Ford's animator first arrived, along with an executive from his advertising agency, Schulz greeted them with a sardonic sign on his home that said "Welcome New York, Welcome Hollywood." By all reports, he was a sincere and spiritual man, and throughout his career, he even 
kept his home phone number listed in the local phone book. After five years, maybe Schulz saw <em> A Charlie Brown Christmas</em> as his chance to finally send a message of his own.

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They'd recorded the childrens' voices for the whole show in just a few hours, according to Melendez's book. (Peter Robbins, who gave Charlie Brown his voice, remembered that "It was very strange for an eight-and-a-half-year-old to pretend to be depressed about Christmas, the most joyous time of the year!")  Christopher Shea, who played Linus, mostly just remembers producer Bill Melendez howling to create the voice of Snoopy. 
Yet the show ultimately won both an Emmy and a Peabody award, and eventually its popularity spawned another 45 animated <em>Peanuts</em> specials, along with four animated <em>Peanuts</em> movies and even two different Broadway musicals. 
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But its success is even more ironic when you consider its very clear message about not commercializing the holidays. ("The half-hour special first aired on Thursday, December 9, 1965," notes <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_charlie_brown_christmas">Wikipedia</A>, "preempting <em>The Munsters</em> and following the <em>Gilligan's Island</em> episode 'Don't Bug the Mosquitos'.") But in Hollywood on the same day, both the <em>Daily Variety</em> and <em>Hollywood Reporter</em> ran the producers' ad sharing "Our special thanks to the Coca-Cola Bottlers 
of America Who Have Made it All Possible." And another ad in <em>TV Guide</em> reminded viewers the innocent characters were "Brought to life...and presented to you by the people in your town who bottle Coca-Cola." But what's even stranger is that originally, the Coca-Cola logo actually appeared in the cartoons themselves! <br/><br/>"In the 'fence' scene, where several of the <em>Peanuts</em> gang are attempting to knock cans off a fence with snowballs, Linus is seen knocking down a can with his blanket," Wikipedia <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_charlie_brown_christmas#Versions">reports,</A> adding that "In the original airing, this was a Coke can..." There's also a deleted bit in the skating scene, right after Snoopy grabs Linus's blanket and hurtles Charlie Brown into the snow under a tree. In the deleted scene, Linus is hurtled in the other direction, into a sign which Wikipedia reports originally read "Coca-Cola." 
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<blockquote>
"Although the FCC eventually imposed rules preventing sponsor references in the context of a story (especially in children's programming), this had no effect upon the decision to impose these edits. The Coca-Cola product placement elements were removed when the company ceased being the sole sponsor, replaced in 1968 by Dolly Madison snack products, who continued to sponsor the <em>Peanuts</em> specials through the 1980s, along with McDonald's."</blockquote>
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In fact, originally the special ended with the Christmas carol &mdash; "Hark, the Herald Angels Sing" &mdash; being interrupted by the following voice-over: "Brought to you by the people in your town who bottle Coca Cola."
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"This is very ironic," commented one user on YouTube, "considering how the whole special is denouncing commercialism..."

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35 years later &mdash; on the night before he died &mdash; a 77-year-old Charles M. Schulz was discussing the Christmas special one last time with the man who'd co-produced it, Lee Mendelson.  Schulz was excited about <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006076659X?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=006076659X">a book they were preparing together about the special,</A> and his feelings about it were still very clear. Over the decades they'd produced 45 animated specials, but Schulz always insisted that the Christmas special had been his favorite. And in his book, Mendelson would also take a moment to remember something else that Schulz had told him years before.
<BR/><BR/>
"There will always be a market in this country for innocence."
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<strong>See Also:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/20/5-lamest-charlie-brown-cartoons/">The 5 Lamest Charlie Brown cartoons</A><Br/>
<a href="http://www.suck.com/daily/99/11/30/daily.html">Psychiatric Help, Five Cents</a><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/12/11/christmas-specials-youtube-dubbed/">Christmas 2.0: Subverting the Holidays with Re-dubbing</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006076659X?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=006076659X">A Charlie Brown Christmas: The Making of a Tradition</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/12/18/santas-crimes-against-humanity/">Santa's Crimes Against Humanity</A>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Meeting Trent Reznor on X at the Sharon Tate Horror House</title>
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		<dc:creator>RU Sirius</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very special edition of the Mondo 2000 History Project that also features Timothy Leary, Gibby Haynes from the Butthole Surfers and the Red Hot Chili Peppers' Anthony Kiedas. <strong>By R. U. Sirius</strong>]]></description>
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<em>
The former editor-in-chief of MONDO 2000 magazine shares a new excerpt from the MONDO 2000 Open Source History Project</A>, which is now in its last days of collecting funds <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1502076070/mondo-2000-an-open-source-history">by offering attractive awards via Kickstarter</A>.</em>
<BR/><Br/><br/>


<strong>It was about three months after I'd quit</strong> <em>MONDO 2000</em>. We (Mondo Vanilli) headed down to L.A. with a demo tape and this very fun and very silly little Xeroxed package offering music industry behemoths the opportunity to get in on the cutting edge of cyber-absurdism. 
<br/><br/>

<div class="breakout">
<div class="breakhead">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;More by R.U. Sirius</div>
<div class="breakcontent">
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2010/06/08/introducing-the-mondo-2000-history-project/">Part One: Introducing the</A><br/>
&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2010/06/08/introducing-the-mondo-2000-history-project/">Mondo 2000 History Project</A><br/>
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/09/27/california-cults-2006/">California Cults</A><br/>
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2011/05/30/resurrecting-reznors-90s-discovery-mondo-vanilli-an-interview/">Resurrecting Reznor's</A><BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2011/05/30/resurrecting-reznors-90s-discovery-mondo-vanilli-an-interview/">Discovery: Mondo Vanilli</A><BR>
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/12/17/timothy-learys-new-book-on-drugs/">Timothy Leary's New Book</A><BR/>
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/02/the-chicks-who-tried-to-shoot-gerald-ford/">The Chicks Who Tried to</A><br/>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/02/the-chicks-who-tried-to-shoot-gerald-ford/">Shoot Gerald Ford</A></div>
</div>


Actually, the day before, I'd discovered that issue #8 of <em>MONDO 2000</em> had come out in my absence. It was the first one without me. I was down at Tower Records off of Telegraph Ave (in Berkeley) and I saw it on the stands. And I actually bought it. I could have gone up to the MONDO house and grabbed a dozen for free, but pride etcetera... you know. And it looked great. The Negativland v. The Edge confrontation (as mentioned earlier, I had walked out of MONDO in an argument with Alison over whether to run it at all) was in it, but it was a much shorter version and it wasn't mentioned on the cover. I read the issue all the way through that night and it was the best issue ever &mdash; it was the most flawless and sophisticated issue yet, which was a bit upsetting, actually. I kind of wanted it to totally fall apart in my absence. In retrospect, it's not surprising that it was good since St. Jude and Andrew Hultkrans were still guiding the editorial content.
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We were going to stay with Timothy Leary in Beverly Hills and we had a whole lot of really amazing music industry connections to look up. I had connections because of <em>MONDO 2000</em>. And we were going to meet this girl Yvonne, from Chicago, who had gone to art school with (Mondo Vanilli musical force) Scrappi. And she knew all kinds of people in the industry. She was sort of... well... let's just say that Al Jourgensen called her a groupie. I certainly wouldn't pin that tag on her... because she wouldn't accept it and secondly, because she's a great, multidimensional, real human being &mdash; but she did hang out with a lot of musicians, let's put it that way. She has been a babysitter for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Pallenberg">Anita Pallenberg</A>, which to me, was the height of hipster cred. And she knew a lot of people. I also had heard from Billy Idol, who was just starting work on <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000IN06?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00000IN06">his infamous cyberpunk thing</A>. So I had his phone number to plan a visit.
<br/><br/>
On our first full day in L.A., we saw a bunch of people. I think the first person we met was Cara Burns, an old friend of Yvonne's. She was part of a very powerful law firm, Manatt, Phelps &#038; Phillips. They represented lots of high-powered people in the entertainment industry. And she agreed to take us on, which I think was ultimately our undoing, actually. And we met with this guy who was like one of the top agents representing bands... as I recall, he mostly signed people to Warner Brothers. Our connections were actually too good. 
<br/><br/>
At some point during that day, I called Casey Cannon, a MONDO friend from L.A. who knew everybody in Hollywood. At that time, she was making most of those short two-minute previews you see in movie theaters... and her husband Van Ling was with Lightstorm and was James Cameron's go-to guy on the new technology. I must have called her from a phone booth since, like most people at that time, I didn't have a cell phone. And she told me that we had to go to Trent Reznor's party that night. 
<br/><br/>
As she informed me, Reznor had just rented the ol' Tate mansion. That is, he'd rented the house that had been occupied by Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate... the place where Sharon and all those other people were slaughtered by the Mansonoids. And this was to be his housewarming party.
<br/><br/>
I didn't have a pen, so I promised to call her back when we got back to Tim's house and get Reznor's phone number. And almost as soon as I got there, she called me. "You've really got to go meet Trent Reznor!" Plus, she noted that Leary's house was right around the corner from Reznor's new place. So I got the phone number and called it right away.
<br/><br/>
I always have anxiety about calling famous people &mdash; a fear of rejection. Particularly then, sort of at the height of MONDO's media hype... when some famous person said, "Who the fuck are you?" it bruised my ego. (Now, it feels like there's less at stake.) But I called, and fortunately, I got an answering machine. And I was able to leave the message that I was staying at Timothy Leary's house. Howdy, neighbor! The Leary name was a first-rate calling card. 
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The phone rang almost constantly at Tim's house, but at some point a couple of hours later, he came out of his office with his phone in hand and announced that he was talking to Peter Christopherson (Coil, Throbbing Gristle) &mdash; who identified himself to Tim as Pighead Christopherson &mdash; and we were invited to Trent Reznor's housewarming party. It was all a bit of a synchronicity too, because &mdash; at that time &mdash; this underground theater group was putting on a play based on a conversation Leary had with Charlie Manson when he was in prison and there were posters and flyers for it around the house. Leary was pretty excited about the play.
<br/><br/>
Just before we were about to head to the party, Tim came out with a mint dish filled with pink ecstasy tabs, offering them around. Simone (Third Arm &mdash; the other member of Mondo Vanilli) took one and I think Yvonne may have taken one. Scrappi and I refused. 
<br/><br/>
But something about the historical resonances nagged at me. What would the small town freak who I had been back in the '70s think about refusing a hit from Timothy Leary before heading up to the infamous Manson horror house to a rock star party. After a few minutes, as we worked on our beers before heading out, I snuck over and pocketed two hits. I went in the bathroom, broke one of them in half and took it. (I guess it seemed more shameful to be a lightweight and take half-a-hit than it was to just refuse it all together, thus the subterfuge.) 
<br/><br/>
I must have had an empty stomach because it came on quick and rather strong for a low dose. Reznor's new home was only a few blocks from Leary's, but it was on some windy roads and getting there became interesting when a red Ferrari started tailgating and some guy began gesticulating wildly out the window. He cut in front of us and made us stop. Out popped Gibby Haynes, shouting. He wanted to know if we knew "the way." He didn't even have to say the way to what. Yes. He let us get in front again and we made our way to the Reznor party. 
<br/><br/>
On arrival, an enthusiastic Gibby jumped out of the car to meet Tim and bragging that the red Ferrari was on loan from Johnny Depp. With the ecstasy coming on, the entire L.A. media world started to seem like a serene and glittery playground filled with happy children playing grownup and I settled into a comfort zone. The world was a friendly place. Relatively speaking, of course.
<br/><br/>
There were two buildings on the Reznor grounds. One relatively small looking house and another building that looked like a warehouse space. The lights were all out in the house and a sign said to go to the other building. 
<br/><br/>
The scene inside was grunge boy meets Barbie doll. Very odd. The guys &mdash; who all looked to be in their thirties &mdash; were all in jeans and t's and leather jackets, with long hair and puffy beer faces. (OK... me too... except I had the lambskin, fur collar, floor length overcoat.) And the girls &mdash; who looked like they were just about past high school &mdash; were all perfect mostly blonde babes with inflated boobs and noses pointed to the sky wearing impossibly short skirts and generally dressed and made up for sex. And for the most part, the guys and girls weren't together. 
<br/><br/>
Gloomy Kraut techno blared too loudly for conversation, and the general mood seemed dour. Everyone carried plastic cups filled with beer. No one was talking to each other. The girls all looked disappointed. No rock stars in sight. This was nothing more than a college kegger with a bit of hipster edge. Where the hell was Trent? 
<br/><br/>
Leary looked lost and confused. Nevertheless he asserted his tribal leadership and brought us all to safety &mdash; a place to sit &mdash; some benches around an unlit fireplace. Once settled, Tim and Simone found comfort locked in each other's eyes, while Scrappi, Yvonne and I continued to scan the room in search of a glimmer of glamour. 
<br/><br/>
After awhile, I realized I had to move. If I sat there any longer, I was going to trance out for the entire evening into the rather boring pink spongecake that the inside of my head was turning into. Yvonne must have been feeling the same thing. By this point, too bored for paranoia, she suggested we "creepy crawly" around the grounds, which made me laugh. 
<br/><br/>
As we were exiting the building, Reznor appeared and greeted us with a sly grin. He followed us out, and around the corner was Anthony Kiedas. Reznor introduced me. Kiedas asked: "Your name is Are You Serious?" Somehow my ecstasy-displaced ego mustered a response. I looked up at the towering pop star whose face had been on my TV screen a thousand times over the previous decade and smiled and said, "Yes. And who are you?" Kiedas deflated. "I'm Anthony," he muttered, humbly, and we shook hands. 
<br/><br/>
And so, Yvonne and I soldiered on to check the perimeters of the ol' Tate mansion, wondering what walls a creepy crawler would crawl over; what bushes would a Squeaky Fromme creep through (Fromme actually wasn't involved in the Tate-LaBianca episodes). It was all just a funny game and Squeaky was just a famous name... like Reznor or Kiedas or Leary. Somehow the horrible reality of that day some 25 years earlier didn't feel any closer at hand on the grounds of the ol' Tate mansion than it had from any other spot on the planet. If there are ghosts, maybe ecstasy chases them away.
<br/><br/>
After a good half hour of wandering around, and Yvonne videotaping the arriving party guests (she kept her video camera with her at all times), we noticed a little bit of light now peaking out from behind the curtains of the smaller house. We slinked up to the door. There was a handwritten sign that read: “COME IN HERE TO BE KILLED." 
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While Yvonne laughed it off, I actually thought it through. Let's see. Reznor is a major rock star with money and ambition. He doesn't want to die right now from a lethal injection, particularly one that doesn't get you off first. Now, maybe if he had spent the last year of his life sucking up to Terry Melcher and Dennis Wilson only to have his song lyrics ripped... achhh! Don't go there. Thankfully, my little reverie was interrupted before it turned into full blown empathy for the devil. Yvonne did the only sensible thing. She opened the door and walked in, camera first. 
<br/><br/>
There they were. Seventeen Illuminati figures, including Marilyn Monroe, George H.W. Bush, David Bowie and The Penguin, all in black robes, huddled over Britney Spears, laying in the center of a Pentagram while Reznor raised his blade. 
<br/><br/>
OK. I just made that up. Actually, it was terribly normal inside. Kiedas and Gibby and Trent were there, and some music industry types, and the hottest of the young girls, clearly selected with care from the warehouse space. Within minutes, Tim and Simone wandered in. Record industry guys came over wanting to ask me about virtual reality. Here I was, in this world historic cosmically weird Manson horror house with Timothy Leary and rock stars sorta situation and I was getting into the same conversations that I would have had back in San Francisco. 
<br/><br/>
There was one moment of vintage verbal violence. Gibby started screaming at some way porno looking girl because she wouldn't believe that this greasy looking longhaired dude with a southern accent was the driver of the red hot Ferrari and that he'd borrowed it from his good friend, Johnny Depp.
<br/><br/>
"CUNT!" he screamed. "Stupid fucking L.A. cunt!" But it wasn't to be taken seriously. She laughed at him, extended her middle finger and walked out and he immediately turned his attention elsewhere.
<br/><br/>
And that's basically the whole story. I did see a laughing Reznor waving around a baggie of mushrooms and heading into a room with one of the girls. Maybe that's why he liked the Mondo Vanilli tape so much that he called the next day to offer us a recording contract. 
<br/><br/>
Later that night, Gibby came up to Leary's house and started asking if he'd ever seen any of that real acid... "like the stuff you guys used to take in the '60s." Tim got annoyed. "LSD is LSD. It's just that they make the doses smaller." Then, Gibby started ranting about how nobody tries to change the world by hijacking planes anymore, and Tim got even more annoyed and denounced terrorism in a couple of brief sentences. Gibby paced the entire house in long rapid steps for a few minutes and then flew out the door. I believe they eventually became friends. 
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<strong>See Also:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2010/06/08/introducing-the-mondo-2000-history-project/">Part One: Introducing the Mondo 2000 History Project</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2011/05/30/resurrecting-reznors-90s-discovery-mondo-vanilli-an-interview/">Resurrecting Reznor's '90s Discovery &mdash; Mondo Vanilli (an Interview)</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/03/29/maps-drugs-research-ru-sirius/">Prescription Ecstasy and Other Pipe Dreams</A><BR>

<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/12/17/timothy-learys-new-book-on-drugs/">Timothy Leary's New Book on Drugs</A><BR/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/02/the-chicks-who-tried-to-shoot-gerald-ford/">
The Chicks Who Tried to Shoot Gerald Ford</A><br/>

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		<description><![CDATA[The magazine's legendary editor finally reveals how psilocybin mushrooms, LSD, and a high school underground newspaper all fermented into High Frontiers magazine, Reality Hackers, and eventually MONDO 2000. <strong>By&#160;R.&#160;U.&#160;Sirius</strong>]]></description>
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<strong>The following is a possible introduction…</strong> or possibly one of several introductions or possibly an opening chapter to the <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1502076070/mondo-2000-an-open-source-history">Mondo 2000 History Project</A> book. It's my story of particular points in my life that I now see as the run up toward starting High Frontiers magazine which became Reality Hackers and then <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060969288?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0060969288">MONDO 2000</A>. Since I was the sole possessor of the idea to start the initial magazine, I believe there is some justification for this personal narrative being the opening salvo, however I'm not stuck on it and I'm happy to hear all feedback.
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Morgan Russell, who is co-editing the book with me, said this text works as an introduction to the book and is "naïve" (in a good sense). I think that's correct. Hopefully, a somewhat more worldly perspective is implicit in my current writing of these memories.
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If you like the writing here, please let that be a motivation for continuing to spread the word <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1502076070/mondo-2000-an-open-source-history">about this Kickstarter page</A>.  We would love to be able to dole out a few dollars beyond the money needed for management of the open source site to pay us and any other super-contributors a little bit for our time; to pay for some transcription of recorded interviews; and to get rights to reuse some already published materials. So keep it coming, please. (And if you don't like the writing here, then you can buy us the time to improve it!)
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Besides linking to it, the text below is available to reuse/post elsewhere. I ask only that you give attribution to R.U. Sirius as the author and then link to <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1502076070/mondo-2000-an-open-source-history">http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1502076070/mondo-2000-an-open-source-history</A>.
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<strong>The MONDO 2000 History Project: An (Possible) Introduction</strong>
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Let the story beginning in the Spring of 1967. I am 14 years old and in 9th grade. It's early evening and the doorbell rings at the suburban house in Binghamton, New York where I live with my mom and dad. It's a group of my friends and they're each carrying a plastic bag and looking mighty pleased. They come in, we shuffle into the guest room (where the record player is kept) and they show off their gatherings &mdash; buttons ("Frodo Lives!" "Mary Poppins is a Junkie" "Flower Power"), beads, posters (hallucinatory), incense with a Buddha incense burner, and kazoos. A lonely looking newspaper lays at the bottom of the pile, as though shameful, the only item unremarked.
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Without realizing the implications, I happen to throw side one of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006AW2U?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00006AW2U">Between The Buttons</A> on the player. Eventually, the song "Cool Calm and Collected" plays and a kazoo sounds through the speakers. In an instant, newly purchased kazoos are wielded and The Rolling Stones' only-ever kazoo solo is joined by three wailing teenagers, bringing sudden shouts of objection from my famously liberal and tolerant Dad in the living room. It's quickly determined that it's late, Dad's tired, and it's time to send all kazoo-wielding teens packing. As each of the friends moves to retrieve his items, I grab the newspaper to see what it is. There are, I now see, two of them &mdash; two editions of something called "The Oracle." It has hallucinatory visuals on the cover and boasts an interview with a member of The Byrds (David Crosby). Vinnie, who had bought it &mdash; but who, despite writing poetry &mdash; avoids any signifiers of intellectual curiosity as the teen status crushers that they are, feigns disinterest and gives the copies to me.
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And that's where it begins, this strange love affair with the periodical, particularly the periodical that has flair and style… where you can almost feel the energy and fun emanating off the pages.
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I remember only one thing from the content inside those two Oracles and that's David Crosby denying that he was "some kind of weird freak who fucks ten chicks a day." That stuck in my mind. I didn't know it was possible even to think that, much less print it, much less be in a position to find it necessary to deny being it!
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Let the story continue some time in early 1969, I'm 16 and in my junior year at Binghamton Central High School. The student/youth protest movement has fired my imagination &mdash; and the more radical the better. The Columbia University takeover with obscenity screaming Mark Rudd! The French Revolution of May '68! The armed black student takeover of the Cornell administration building, just 45 miles away in Ithaca! WoWeeee!
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I wanted a piece of it. So I started a high school "underground newspaper" &mdash; The Lower Left Corner. Wanting to spring it on the school as a total surprise, I brought in only one co-conspirator (memory fails me, but he was more a collegian liberal type while I hung with the freaks.) Anyway, what we came up with was, I am sure, a completely lame and absurd piece of adolescent indignation. While college students revolted against the war, racism, and authoritarianism in school, we boiled it down to authoritarianism at school. The one thing I remember is that we had a cartoon of a teacher wearing a swastika armband busting a student for smoking in the boys' room. (Eat your hearts out, Brownsville Station!) It was that stupid.
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To this day, I consider The Lower Left Corner a great success. Eight pages, Xeroxed front and back and stapled together… we entered the school each armed with a boxful… probably about 80 copies each total, and started handing them out selectively, avoiding the jocks and straights (by the way, straight used to mean "not hip.")
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We got to homeroom &mdash; official start of the school day. The principle came over the loudspeaker. "Anyone caught with a copy of the paper called The Lower Left Corner will be immediately suspended from school." All eyes on me. Homeroom ends and as the door to the hallway swings open, I step out into my first taste of celebrity. All the jocks that usually threaten to beat me up or cut my hair off are jostling for a copy of the forbidden paper… even thanking me upon receiving. Laughing, I thrust the pieces ‘o' crap into the grasping hands, happy also to get rid of them so that I wouldn't be caught with any copies… and then I waited for the administrative consequences.
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None were forthcoming. I had beaten the system… and in two ways. I'd gotten the administration to act out the very authoritarian impulse that we were lamely dithering about in print; and I learned something that served me well through the rest of my career as a high school "sixties radical. " If the authorities think you're political enough to run to the ACLU, they'll leave you alone and bust your intended audience instead!
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We created and "printed" one more issue of The Lower Left Corner. As I recall, it was on an antiwar theme and we paid more attention to the quality of the text and design the second time out. This time, we handed them out without any attempted interference. Teachers even used it as a source for classroom discussions. And of course… no one cared.
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Let the story continue in Fall of 1971. I'm 19. I meet Tommy Hannifin at a rally against the killings at Attica State. He's shouting the not-so-secret codeword… YIPPIE! We converge and excitedly share our mutual love of the Yippies' funny and fun acid-infused, prankster, wild-in-the-streets take on The Movement as a Youth Culture Revolution. I tell him that I want to create a Binghamton Chapter of the Yippies and start an underground newspaper. And so we did.
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I should be clear. I had never thought… even for a moment, about journalism as a craft and/or a career. It didn't even occur to me that I should think about it in those terms. Indeed, to the constant worry of Mom and Dad, I never thought about career at all. I assumed that The Revolution would render those issues moot. I simply reached for the print medium because it seemed like a tool that was accessible. (It was… relatively speaking.) I seem to recall that Tommy, at least, knew something about layout &mdash; that you had to get these boards, type out the text, get visuals and paste it all up. And so, we pasted together Lost In Space, Binghamton's little underground newspaper, ripping off a few frames from an underground cartoon titled <em>Nancy Kotex: High School Nurse</em> for the front page. This thievery was utterly naïve. The idea of copyright and intellectual property was unfamiliar to me &mdash; like so many things in life that seemed obvious to so many, it hadn't occurred to me. The cartoon just struck us as funny, and when we imagined people getting all upset and offended by it, it became twice as funny. And so I learned about the double scoop of pleasure you get from prankster humor that confounds or freaks people out. You get to laugh at the joke… and then you get to laugh at the over-reaction to the joke.
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Like The Lower Left Corner, Lost In Space (changed by issue #2 to Space because movement types told us Lost In Space sent a negative message) was a piece of crap. And unlike the underground papers of the bigger urban centers and hip college towns like Madison Wisconsin and Ann Arbor Michigan, we had no tributes to George Jackson and Ho Chi Minh; we had no quasi-sophisticated neo-Marxian analyses of the movement; no major statements from Robin Morgan about the rise of militant feminism; and probably not much news. Like The Lower Left Corner, Space was locally focused, reflexively against all authority, and juvenile. But it was probably a bit more stylishly written… and it certainly had a puckish sense of humor.
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Let the story continue in 1980. I'm 27 years old and a Junior at the State University College at Brockport, New York, near Rochester. (The Revolution having left me stranded.) My friend Brian Cotnoir wants to start an avant-garde art newspaper. He calls it Black Veins &mdash; which comes from an interpretation of a line from Lautreamont's epic proto-surrealist misanthropic horror poem Maldoror (Les Chantes de Maldoror) &mdash; and he signs me on as co-editor. The paper features dark, perversely angled bits of poetry and fiction, but I bring something else in. Since the mid-1970s, I have been nursing a growing obsession with the neuro-futurisms of Dr. Timothy Leary and Illuminatus author/philosopher Robert Anton Wilson.
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For the first issue, I have a written exchange with Wilson, performed by the soon to be archaic means of letters sent by mail. (As best I recall) the exchange essentially involves me wringing my hands that the world is a terrible place and that his optimistic weltanschauung may actually be a dangerous diversion. (I would later get letters like that myself at MONDO 2000 and, generally, respond with dismissive quips intended to communicate my lack of commitment to an optimistic &mdash; or any &mdash; point of view.) My letter includes a pretentious, portentous quote from a <em>Village Voice</em> review of Hans-Hurgen Syderberg's 6 hour film, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UL61EI?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000UL61EI">Our Hitler</A>.
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And then word comes that Dr. Leary himself is coming to Rochester on his "stand up philosophy" tour. Brian, his girlfriend Ellen, myself, and our ex-girlfriend Liz pile in Ellen's car for the 30-minute drive to Rochester for the Sunday afternoon performance. Our goal is to interview the Dr. after the show for the second issue of Black Veins and then to film him. I plan to try and incorporate him into an 8mm movie called Armed Camp I'm making for a film class. (Incidentally, that's camp in the Susan Sontag sense.) The film involves, among other things, some 20-somethings playing poker in pajamas using the Aleister Crowley Thoth Tarot deck and then dancing to The Archies "Sugar Sugar" 45 rpm played at 33 (makes the vocals sound sort of like Jim Morrison). There is a vague narrative structure to this odd little attempt and I have reworked it so that it required Timothy Leary to say a few lines.
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My posse &mdash; myself excluded &mdash; is negative about mind-altering drugs and cynical about Leary, and this makes me anxious. As we take our seats, the end of the Pink Floyd album The Wall blasts out of the loudspeakers and the cover of Leary's book The Intelligence Agents &mdash; which shows multiple copies of the same baby attempting to climb over a brick wall which appears to have no end &mdash; is projected onto a screen on stage. Then comes Side 2 (The "1984" side) of David Bowie's Diamond Dogs. Given his recent byzantine adventures with prison, exile, revolution, and compromise with the powers of state, it seems as if Leary is trying to tell us something. To the final echoes of Bowie singing "We want you, big brother," Dr. Leary walks on stage. Liz mutters a bit too loudly, "Ohmygod, it's Johnny Carson!"
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The performance is not particularly impressive or funny, but Leary agrees to be interviewed. He unleashes that famous laser beam smile on each of us, one at a time, and the vibe immediately changes. Instant intimacy. Timothy Leary is now our special pal and we're his co-conspirators. We move into the restaurant attached to the club, order drinks and peruse the menu. Liz, a slightly moralistic vegetarian, asks Leary if he eats meat. "I'll eat anything!" he says directly to her, smiling. It's something that has been said a million times before by both jackasses and geniuses, but it comes out like a blast of freedom. Everybody feels this.
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We all have a roaring great time interviewing Leary about life, drugs; his hatred of followers, his futurist theories, and the 1980 Democratic primaries ("If I'd done a better job, you wouldn't have all these pasty-faced white guys running around New Hampshire.") We're all dazzled, feeling like the host of Planet Earth's party had lifted the velvet rope and let us in. As we finish the conversation, Ellen urges me to ask Tim about appearing in Armed Camp. I'm feeling shy, but I share the script &mdash; such as it is &mdash; with him and point him at his two-sentence part. "What's it about?" he asks. A bit flustered, I blurt out, "Nothing really." He laughs and looks at my friends. "Thaaat's wonderfullll, isn't it? Nothing. Isn't thaaat wonderful?" Everybody laughs, including me. He won't read the lines but he will let me ask him a question and film his response… which turns out to be useless for my movie, but a treasure (that I will soon lose) nonetheless.
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As we wrap up, Tim asks for a ride back to his hotel. He shrewdly picks Brian to dismantle and pack up the photo projector he'd uses to backdrop his talk. As we head to the car, night has fallen. Liz is pawing Dr. Leary, while they both gaze up at the stars. He points and describes a constellation or two. In the car, Liz continues to stroke and flirt, offering to come up to his hotel. Leary tells her she is very beautiful and wonderful, but he's married. As "Sympathy For the Devil" pops up on the mainstream rock radio station, we pull up to a raggedy-ass little hotel that's near the Rochester Airport and the good Dr. takes his leave of us.
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Let the story continue in early November 1983. I am 31 years old and have just recently moved into a weirdly straight (see above) shared household in Mill Valley, California, a 'burb of San Francisco. The house is made up mostly of sedate 50-something recent converts to new age philosophies &mdash; an oddly pale white man who emanates a bland but likeable passivity seems to be the eminence grise of the household scene. And then there's a Hindu Hippie couple around my age that lives in the back room. They smoke pot (I can smell it) and they pretty much keep to themselves.
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I have moved from Brockport, New York to the San Francisco Bay Area (starting off in Berkeley) with a "note to self" in my pocket &mdash; the only thing I could write during several months of writer's block, after a briefly successful academic and small town rock and roll career as a writer of fiction… and writer and singer of song lyrics. The note contains my California to-do list: "Start the Neopsychedelic Wave. Start a Neopsychedelic band. Start a Neopsychedelic magazine."
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In late 1980, having written two darkly comic short stories to great local academic approval, and even winning a scholastic award (best fiction) for one of them (titled "Glib Little Holocausts"); having written darkly comic lyrics for a punk-tinged rock band (called "Party Dogs") and performed to some approval in both Brockport and Rochester; and looking ahead vaguely to either trying to make a run at a career as a rock and roll eccentric or hiding in obscurity as a writing professor; I came in for an odd reckoning &mdash; an interruption, really. It was a really good LSD trip.
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Two days after the murder of John Lennon, laying in a room in a small apartment in which the heat pipes played oddly angelic music that had gone heretofore unnoticed, my girlfriend Lisa and I laid face to face, took the clean 250 microgram doses of liquid LSD-25 we had gotten from the colleges' hippyest Deadhead and made off for the cosmos.
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Up until then, even my best trips had been fraught with ambiguity. My friends and lovers were weird. My hometown was relatively small… and contained parents who worried, and hostile lawmen and jocks who knew who I was. There was always at least the hint of trouble or shame &mdash; the feeling that my neurological nakedness was something to hide and someone lurked around the bend ready to give me a bad &mdash; or, at least, a strange time.
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Now, there I was, safe and high and with a girlfriend who I actually liked and felt comfortable with, primed by my readings of Leary and Wilson to tap into an elegant symmetry, a generosity, even a sense of frivolity in the heart of all-that-is.
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At first, the acid hit strong. It jolted up and down my spine like kundalini lightening, then shooting out the top of my head in a glorious explosive overabundance &mdash; an excess of multicolor wow! and then it smoothed over into an endless and sumptuous multidimensional layer cake of pastels filled to the brim with warm congratulations at having arrived. Later, it took me into deep space, and the heat pipes, which had been playing a pleasant kind of Tuvan throat music drone started, instead, to play John Lennon's hit song, "Starting Over" and, well… the message seemed clear. What the Lizard King had said was true: "Everything must be this way."
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The aftermath of the trip found me disastrously happy, playful, optimistic, frivolous and energized… and writing about the coming of a Neopsychedelic Wave in lyrics and fiction. In the real (small) world of Brockport, New York, I'd shifted into a master's course in Fiction Writing, and attempts to give expression to my new head in that context weren't working. What came out was the sort of gibberish that has been produced before and aft by so many in the throes of psychedelic wonder &mdash; shards of flashy words that tried to convey – no, make that impart the energy of being aliver than thou to the recipient with FLASHY CAPITALIZED WORDS. Finally, after a couple of floundering semesters, I heard the siren call: "California is the place you oughta be!" There was really, after all, only one state from which to start a Neopsychedelic Wave.
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So I'm sitting in the living room here in Mill Valley in 1983 just sort of gazing out the window when something bordering on an apparition appears. The Hindu Hippies plus their friend, a tall thin man in white robes &mdash; a visitor who occasionally slinks in and out of their room to use the bathroom &mdash; are opening a side door, and walking with them into the very back yard that I am gazing upon is a tall, thin, curly haired man, speaking something not quite audible in a familiar, nasally voice.
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I recognize the man. I had attended a lecture he gave at a place in Berkeley a few months earlier. It was something about magic mushrooms and UFOs. In a nasally voice that reminded me of Jello Biafra, the man &mdash; Terence McKenna &mdash; had woven an astounding linguistic spell, rich with references ranging from Learyesque projections of future space architectures and superhuman amplifications to McLuhanistic media meanderings and, to top it all off, erudite descriptions (damn, why couldn't I do that?) of psychedelic experiences… including one that involved something along the lines of forty days and forty nights on mushrooms in the Amazonian Rain Forest during which he "channeled" a message from the logos that was calling us forward through time and using the acceleration of technology and consciousness and social crisis to bring us to some kind of psychedelic singularity in which exteriority and interiority would trade places!
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Well… far out! But what the fuck is he doing at my house with the Hindu Hippies!? Here am I, on cosmic assignment from something or other to start the Neopsychedelic Movement and feeling meek and quiet and ill prepared and there's this McKenna guy at my house. They quickly retreat into the back room. It takes me a good half hour to work up my nerve and tap on the door.
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What happens next is (like an alien probe) wiped from my memory. Let it be said &mdash; and many will attest to this &mdash; that Mr. McKenna always brought the powerful fucking weed with him when he came. All I know is that, somehow, at the end of the visit, which probably lasted all of an hour, Mr. McKenna is handing me a baggie with 6 grams of dried psilocybin mushrooms and a joint of his way-too-strong pot and telling me (McKenna familiars… hear the nasel): "Eat these on an empty stomach. An hour later, go into a darkened room and smoke this joint. That will get you where you want to go."
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So it's about a week later, and it's Monday, the start of a Thanksgiving weeklong break in my job selling season ticket subscriptions by phone for various Bay Area arts organizations. I have decided that tonight's the night. I will take the 6 grams of mushrooms late that night and lie in the dark in silence in my room and I will make contact with The Others &mdash; the alien intelligences that Mr. McKenna says are available on the Psilocybin frequency (when you take enough) &mdash; or I won't… and either way, it will be a groovy trip.
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I have decided to try a borderline fast &mdash; nothing but toast and water (and my morning cup of coffee) all day. It's a big mistake. It's around 5 pm and I'm heading home after strolling into town and I start to pass the McDonalds on the corner when the hunger overwhelms me and the biological robot commandeers my brain. By the time my brain returns to ordinary consciousness, I have downed a bag of Chicken McNuggets and a small bag of fries. Now I'm unhappy with myself and I'm deciding that I've blown the opportunity. No trip tonight.
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I get back to the house and, oddly, it's empty. It's a large household, yet no one is home. A thought grips me. If they all stay away for an hour, I have a chance to get off on the mushrooms alone, having the run of the house during those energetic, intensely physical early moments that occur when you first come on to psychedelics. Then, I can hide out in my room with the lights out for the remainder of the trip. The time is nigh. I chew down the biggest batch of ‘shrooms in my life by far and I find myself pacing the house, nervously. Suddenly, after about 20 minutes, it slices through me like a shard of angry glass. A shattering angry splintery energy thing is outside me lacerating me and I am in everything's sights and all-that-is is pissed at me. The house cats start scurrying around yowling, running furiously, scratching at and trying to climb the walls. The suburban Mill Valley street suddenly looms very small and enclosed and conservative, and me… Mistra Inappropriate… not in control of my basic social signals and I'm now being lacerated by demons from a peculiar occult/Rolling Stones mirrorworld for abandoning them back in Binghamton, New York. Multiple car engine noises scrape the insides of my gut (In reality, it's around 6 pm, the time when people in the suburbs get home from working in San Francisco) &mdash; each one of them very likely carrying narcotics cops or agents of some hostile control system and, worst of all, I see it like it is now… They're the good guys and I am cast out, having done wrong; having eaten magic mushrooms on a corporate McDonald's stomach… heedlessly. I stare out the front window expecting incoming &mdash; hoping merely that the inevitable death is not too tortuous. And then it happens. A car actually stops right in front of the house. This is it. It's over! But wait. The doors open and several clearly preoccupied corporeal and painfully ordinary humans emerge &mdash; all my housemates. They are opening doors and the trunk and picking up grocery bags. In an instant, things shift. The immediate danger lessens but does not disappear. I still may be attacked by angry beings, but right now I have another challenge. I have to act normal. I shuffle to the front door and open it, thinking that the best strategy is to wander out and offer to carry grocery bags. I take one step outside. Can't handle it. I go back inside and close the screen door. Now I've given myself away. But the roomies walk in the house, preoccupied with their normal activities and blandly saying hello, to which I manage a normal sounding reply. All, that is, except for the Hindu Hippie guy. He makes a beeline for me and looks me right in the eyes. Quietly, he says, "Oh boy. Come with me" and, with his girlfriend, leads me by the hand into their back room. I start to tell him what I've done but he already knows. "You've taken Terence's mushrooms." The thin man in the white robes is lying on his side on a cot looking calm. He has been sitting in there all along. They say very little at first. They bring me a cup of warm tea; have me lie down on a cot, and the Hindu Hippie girl gives me a shoulder rub. I mutter something about demons from a Rolling Stones mirrorworld and start to explain about the friendship I had with a strange and charismatic guitar player who was fanatically and uncannily tapped into Keith Richards almost to the point where the evidence suggested a mystical connection and how we spent five months together in borderline isolation learning the entire Rolling Stones catalogue, and how he played it better than anybody alive except maybe Keith (better than Ronnie, by far), and how we talked long into the night about the occult dimensions of The Rolling Stones and the gut level pagan authenticity of the sex and drugs and rock and roll left hand path to enlightenment and how this friendship had all the elements of an intense sexual affair but without the sex and he started talking about Rimbaud &#038; Verlaine and how it made me self-conscious and I couldn't handle it and then I gave him my song lyrics to start writing originals and he said he lost them and laughed at me and I left town and never spoke to him again.
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And this makes perfect sense to my Hindu Hippie friends. I mean, christ… they were California hippies. They were probably at Altamont as teenagers! Demons sent from a Rolling Stones mirrorworld made perfect sense. And then, as I settled into a state of calm, the thin man in the white robes told me his story. Vijaya was a former leader of the American Hare Krishna cult. He had left the group because they had started to behave &mdash; as do pretty much all cults &mdash; like gangsters, with all the corruption and violence that implies. He still believed in Hare Krishna's brand of Hinduism, but he was part of a renegade group of psychedelic Hare Krishnas. And the Hare Krishna cultists had tried to kill him… and he was hiding out. So here we were, me hiding out from mirrorworld Stones demons and him hiding out, ostensibly, from Hare Krishna assassins, both of us in the back room of a very bland Mill Valley shared household.
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While the LSD trip that had sent me to California was a "good trip" and the trip on McKenna's shrooms was a "bad trip," they both propelled me on. A couple of days after the psilocybin trip, the resolve to go forward with the creation of a psychedelic magazine took hold of me. I contacted Will Nofke, a new age radio host who had done a series of interviews about psychedelics with Albert Hofmann, Timothy Leary, Terence McKenna and Andrew Weil on Berkeley's Pacifica station KPFA, and asked him for the tapes to transcribe and publish the content. He sent me the tapes and granted me the permission. On New Years Eve &mdash; as 1983 was becoming 1984 &mdash; I stayed home alone. I finished transcribing the last of the tapes &mdash; the Leary interview &mdash; while watching the avant-garde video artist Nam June Paik host a very special New Years Eve 1984 show titled Good Morning, Mr. Orwell on PBS' Alive From Off Center, featuring many of my culture heroes: Laurie Anderson, John Cage, Allen Ginsberg, and Paik himself. Later I would have my first date with my wife Eve at a Nam June Paik exhibit in San Jose, California and I would co-create a TV show proposal and sample titled "The R.U. Sirius Show" for the consideration of PBS with John Sanborn, the Producer of Alive From Off Center. When the show ended, I channel surfed and found Timothy Leary on a silly, long forgotten entertainment talk show (I have mercifully forgotten the host). It was lame, but still, it was Timmy on network TV. A great signifier for the beginning of a new life. As 1984 dawned, I started reaching out to find compatriots to be part of a magazine that would be called High Frontiers and later Reality Hackers and then finally MONDO 2000.

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<strong>See Also:</strong><br/>

<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/11/19/counterculture-and-the-tech-revolution/">Counterculture and the Tech Revolution</A><Br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/07/03/steve-wozniak-v-stephen-colbert-and-other-pranks/">Steve Wozniak v. Stephen Colbert - and Other Pranks</A><Br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/11/robert-anton-wilson-1932-2007/">Robert Anton Wilson 1932-2007</A><Br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/10/04/neil-gaiman-has-lost-his-clothes-2/">Neil Gaiman Has Lost His Clothes</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/10/05/is-the-net-good-for-writers/">Is The Net Good For Writers?</A><br/>
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		<title>Dana Plato and the Diff&#8217;rent Strokes Curse</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 11:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Destiny</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The death of Gary Coleman offers a sad coda to the death of his TV co-star, Dana Plato, 11 years earlier. <strong>By&#160;Destiny</strong>]]></description>
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<strong>It was 1999 when I first investigated the sordid aftermath</strong> of the death of another Diff'rent Strokes actor, Dana Plato. It seemed like the last remnants of Dana Plato's fame had finally been picked clean by the scandal-hungry media when she'd died that May. According to <em>People</em> magazine, "[T]he lovable star of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FDiffrent-Strokes-Complete-First-Season%2Fdp%2FB0002JZT5U%2F&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325">Diff'rent Stokes</A> grew up to be a petty crook, an addict, an alcoholic and, with her death at age 34, a Hollywood casualty." <em>The New York Daily News</em> added that by the early '90s "she was spending most of her time playing the nickel slots in Las Vegas after she was turned down for a $6-an-hour job picking up garbage and cleaning bathrooms." But in the last month of her life, Dana started an even more unlikely business relationship with Shane Bugbee, a 31-year-old Chicago-based promoter, which ensured her continued infamy after death.
<br/><br/>
For one thing, he'd put her alleged autopsy on the Internet: "Internal examination, external examination, graphical view..."
<br/><br/>
Dana started down this final road to degredation earlier that month. She'd scheduled an appearance at Bugbee's Expo of the Extreme &mdash; along with alternative metal acts like Marky Ramone, Jello Biafra, and Motorhead &mdash; and got time on Howard Stern's radio show to promote it. That interview landed Bugbee a brief flirtation with notoriety when Stern read the name of his vulgar-punned Web site (MikeHuntsOnFire.com) on the air. Her appearance on the Stern show was important, Bugbee had told her, because "my response, from the Web page, from everyone, is no one believes I'm even talking to you."
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<br/><br/>
Bugbee's proud press release for the Expo &mdash; headlined "Dana Plato Speaks!" &mdash; was soon followed by one titled "Dana Plato Silenced," after she died of an overdose of painkillers and muscle relaxants just two weeks before the big event. Dana's years of notoriety were over, and all Bugbee had left were the tapes of their phone conversations.
<br/><br/><br/>
<strong>Plato on Tape</strong>
<br/><br/>
But if there are no second acts in America, Bugbee at least provided Dana with a sordid epilogue. Bugbee contacted Internet Entertainment Group, according to a company spokesperson, and offered the recordings for their pornography Web site. But there was more to come.
<br/><br/>
In August, Bugbee launched the "Dana Plato Cult Web site," and began hawking memberships for $30 apiece. 
(Archive.org's 1999 version of the site is <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/19991127074125/http://www.danaplatocult.com/new/default.htm">here</A>). The site included more attempts at exploiting the former child star's notoriety. One page offered to let visitors "Ask Dana questions from the grave through the Dana Plato Psychic Network." (Presumably, they'd be answered by excerpts from his recordings &mdash; but nearly four months later, it still led to a page "under construction," and the same held true for the site's message board.) But have no fear, every page ended with a banner ad marketing <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FDana-Platos-Breath-incl-70-audioCD%2Fdp%2F1929399030%2F&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325">Bugbee's CD</A>: "Dana Plato's Last Breath."
<br/><br/>
The disc featured the doomed actress talking extremely fast, in her hyperactive voice with childish enthusiasm, about resting from the flu, or lisping because she'd bit her tongue. Plato is chatty and erratically candid, but it's not necessarily the "tell all" promised by the site's promotional copy. Dana does ramble in their last conversation, but there's no explicit descent "into a drugged-out Hollywood HELL!" ("Listen in HORROR...") And though it does open with a montage of sound clips, to advertise it as "Kimberly Drummand's [sic] audio suicide note CAUGHT ON TAPE!!" was an exaggeration.
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<br/><br/>
But nonetheless, they are recordings from the last week of Dana's life, which ironically include an eerie clip from her appearance on Howard Stern. (Howard Stern: "Hi Dana, how you doing? You don't look near death. I look near death, actually." Robin Quivers: "Right, we look in worse shape!")
<br/><br/>
Former child star Barry Williams, who played Greg on <em>The Brady Bunch</em>, <a href="http://gettingit.com/article/35">told me a few months after her death</A>, "I listened to the interview and it didn't &mdash; something didn't sound okay, even then... It sort of reminded me of the Shakespearean line, you know &mdash; 'She doth protest-eth too much.'" If she was loaded, it wouldn't be the first time. Diane Anderson-Minshall, who interviewed Dana for the lesbian magazine <em>Girlfriends</em> in 1998, remembers that "she came to our cover shoot drunk."
<br/><br/>
Even on Bugbee's recordings, you can hear him emphasizing an important point to Dana about her New York trip. "It's a non-refundable ticket... It's not transferable for cash or anything." And Dana does sound strangely anxious to please on the tapes. In Bugbee's recording of their last phone call, the night before she died, Dana can't seem to hang up. Clinging for more than 20 minutes, her thoughts gets less and less organized. (Bugbee later told IEG that "she sounded loaded.") After sentimentally blathering about working for free, Plato seems to start crying when her 14-year-old son Tyler asks if he can be an actor. She asks for an earlier flight home from New York ("so that I have some time to rest, and not look like hell,") and when it turns out that's not an option, she says "That's fine. I'll get a valium from someone and sleep."
<br/><br/>
Towards the end, she burbles out "I really, really, really, really, really have a good vibe that this is &mdash; this is it."
<br/><br/><br/>
<strong>The Last Stop</strong>
<br/><br/>
Wrong. The next track on Bugbee's CD is the call he'd attempted to make to Dana the night she overdosed. Yes, he's morbidly included the recording of Robert Menchaca, Dana's fiance, trying to wake her up. ("Dana. Dana! Hey, Dana....") Bugbee went so far as to title the track, as well as the CD, "Dana Plato's Last Breath," though there's no evidence that it's her last breath, or even who it is that's breathing on the tape. Bugbee can be heard telling Menchaca "That's okay, man, let her sleep it off, dude. Whatever."
<br/><br/>
Bugbee's also included two additional conversations with Menchaca. In the first, Menchaca calls crying from the hospital the day after the suicide, and in the next he talks about the autopsy and the investigation. He tells Bugbee police found syringes, a pill bottle, and a pack of rolling papers. Ironically, he complains to Bugbee about the media. "They turned a light on this as soon as I got out of the truck."
<br/><br/>
The autopsy Bugbee posted was presented under the heading: "You decide... Accident, Suicide, or Murder?" It was clearly a publicity stunt. A link at the bottom of the page read: "Learn more about the life and death of Dana Plato by getting your own copy of Dana Plato's Last Breath by clicking here! " Inside the scandal-mongering booklet that accompanied the CD, Bugbee listed Menchaca as a possible suspect. Dana's mother-in-law was listed as "Suspect #2", and the next subhead was "Government Plot." ("after all, the government has done weirder things....")
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<br/><br/>
It all marked the gravy train's last stop. In his booklet, Bugbee wrote that he and Dana had discussed a coffee table book, a biography, and other business deals. But 15 minutes into the recording of their last conversation, he said "It's been great talking to you and just getting to talk to you the little bit I have. If that's all I walk away from this whole experience is having a few conversations with you, I feel like a lucky guy."
<br/><br/>
And there was one final irony. As their last conversation wound down, Dana babbled, "Um, It's just, it's, no one, no one ever takes [sic] attention to me, you know, and I will not let you down, ever."
<br/><br/>
Bugbee blustered optimistically, "Well, good! Then I won't you. We'll have a long relationship, then.
<br/><br/>
"We'll know each other forever."
<br/><br/>
<strong>See Also:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/1999/09/07/dana-plato-porn-star/">Dana Plato, Porn Star</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/09/screechs-sex-tape-follies/">Screech's Sex Tape Hoax</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2010/04/30/nancy-drews-sexy-secrets/">Nancy Drew's Sexy Secrets</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/10/02/why-palins-sex-life-matters/">Why Sarah Palin's Sex Life Matters</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FDiffrent-Strokes-Complete-First-Season%2Fdp%2FB0002JZT5U%2F&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325">Diff'rent Strokes: Season One</A>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Nancy Drew&#8217;s Sexy Secrets</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 06:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Destiny</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It may be a children's dectective story, but it sure <em>looks</em> like sexy lesbian bondage. <strong>By Destiny</strong><br/>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<BR/><center><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557091587?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1557091587"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Nancy%20Drew%20sexy%20rope%20bondage%20scene.gif" border=0></A></center>
<br/>
<strong>I'm not <em>saying</em> Nancy Drew</strong> was a lesbian.  (Believe me, I still remember the pushback on our 2007 article, <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/10/29/how-gay-were-the-hardy-boys/">How Gay Were the Hardy Boys</A>.) But the original Nancy Drew stories were written in 1930, and sometimes their outdated language creates a problem.
<br/><br/>
<blockquote><I>

"Will you tell us why you came here, and promise never to divulge to a
soul a word about this place?"
	<br/><br/>
"I promise nothing," Nancy declared.
	<br/><br/>

"What!" the men ejaculated in astonishment.
</i></blockquote>
<br/><br/>

I hate it when that happens....
<br/><br/>
That's an actual quote from <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557091641?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1557091641">the 1933 edition</A> of <em>Password to Larkspur Lane</em>. The language was updated in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0448095106?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0448095106">later decades,</A> and most readers have never seen the original texts. But before Nancy even hooked up with her butch friend Bess Marvin, she'd enjoyed this strange adventure with a young femme named Helen Corning.  <br/><br/>
After Helen and Nancy Drew encounter a suspect, Helen gushes "I just hated the looks of that man.  Let's think about something
pleasant." And then...
<br/><br/>
<blockquote><em>
The girls accordingly enjoyed themselves by admiring each other's dainty
lingerie, choosing the stockings which would best match slippers and
frocks, and so for a time forgot the mystery.  Helen was in ecstasies over
Nancy's powder blue evening gown...
</em></blockquote>
<br/><br/>
And when Nancy finally sneaks into the bad guy's house, Helen actually <em>kisses</em> Nancy Drew.
<br/><br/>
<blockquote>
"Good luck," she whispered.
</blockquote>
<br/><br/>
I swear I'm not making this up!  ("Helen kissed her chum," it says on page 173.) That's how mind-bogglingly innocent
people were in 1933.  Or... There's something else going on here. 
<br/><br/><br/>
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Nancy even spends the night sleeping with Helen. And the next morning, when she tells Helen she has "an adventure" in mind &mdash; Helen can't wait....
<br/><br/>
<blockquote><I>
She threw back the covers of the bed and began dressing rapidly.  "Hurry up, Nancy," she cried gayly.
<br/><br/>"Lead me to this adventure..."
</i></blockquote>
<br/><br/>
And to hell with sleuthing!
<br/><br/>
Sorry, my mind wandered off there for a second. Or am I the only one who sees sexy lesbian bondage overtones in the 1930 frontispiece illustration for 
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557091587?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1557091587">The Mystery at Lilac Inn?</A>  (See the picture above.) Even twenty years later, when the books were <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0448095041?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0448095041">updated</A>, Nancy Drew was still tied up at the hands of 
the domineering jewel thief Mary Mason. <br/>
<br/><br/>
<center><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0448095041?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0448095041"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Nancy%20Drew%20tied%20up%20in%20bondage%20again.gif" border=0></A></center>
<br/><br/>

And then there's this 1939 scene from <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557092621?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1557092621">The Clue of the Tapping Heels</A>.
<br/><br/><br/>
<center><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557092621?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1557092621"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Nancy%20Drew%20tied%20in%20bondage.gif" border=0></A></center>
<br/><br/>
Though I've also had sexy lesbian bondage fantasies involving another Nancy...
<br/><br/><br/>
<center><a href="http://www.destinyland.org/nancy-top.htm"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Sexy%20Kinky%20Nancy%20Comic%20Strip%20Bondage.jpg" border=0></A></center>
<br/><br/>
Still, I want to believe that even the most prudish reader would be curious about a chapter titled 
"The Man with the Whip."  ("You saved me from a very unpleasant experience back there, Effie...")  But the real moral of this story is that even in 1933, Nancy Drew kicked bad-guy ass.  <blockquote>"'Oh dear, this is something I don't know much about," the girl said in vexation.  "How does one go about crippling an airplane motor?"</blockquote> <BR/>Maybe it helps to think of the books as antique children's pulp fiction...
<br/><br/>
<br/>
<strong>A Little History</strong>
<br/><br/>

The first Nancy Drew books were action-packed adventure stories ghostwritten by the first woman ever to receive a masters of journalism from
the University of Iowa in 1927. 
Mildred Wirt Benson (under the pen name "Carolyn Keane") still remains an unsolved mystery,
but it's obvious that she lived in a different world. Benson practically fell through time, according to Wikipedia, living for 97 years, from 1905 to 2002.

And though she didn't write <Em>Password to Larkspur Lane</em>, she is responsible for the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557091587?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1557091587">The Mystery at Lilac Inn</A>, which is often cited for another unfortunate anachronism in the 
original Nancy Drew series &mdash; racism. <br/><br/>In fact, the book's first three chapters are all about Nancy trying to find a substitute housekeeper when her maid goes out of town, with Benson writing that there's a "slovenly colored woman" who Nancy rejects (along with an "Irish woman," and a "Scotch lassie.")  And in a 1930 Benson book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557091560?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1557091560">The Hidden Staircase</A>, she uses almost identical language to describe the villain's maid &mdash; a "fat, slovenly looking colored woman". When Nancy sneaks in through the cellar window &mdash; and accidentally makes a noise &mdash; she brings the villain's maid downstairs to investigate.  And then 
<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20020205142340/pickle.fleegan.com/chapter16.html">the maid says</A>....
<br/>
<blockquote>
	"I done reckons my old ears is playing me false.  I hears noises
	dat sounds like dey was in de basement and dey was only in my
	haid."
</blockquote>
<br/>
Yes, Benson writes the maid's dialogue with the same dialect throughout the book. Later Nancy sneaks into a room in the hallway, and the villain's pet parrot starts squawking. The maid comes running, and Nancy hides in the closet.<br/>
<blockquote>
	"How comes you so excited to-night, talkbird?" the woman demanded
	crossly. "You carries on like a fool with all yo' squawkin' and
	speechifyin'."
</blockquote>
<br/>
And when the cops finally come, the maid holds them off with a shotgun.
<br/><br/>
To be fair, it was a long time ago.  When Applewood Books ultimately <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Frichpub%2Flistmania%2Ffullview%2F1SWS9QLPRHFH1&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957">republished these original texts in 1991</A>, they added 
a preface with some soul-searching, acknowledging that "Much has changed" in America. ("The modern reader may be delighted with the warmth and exactness of the language, the wholesome innocence of the characters...but just as well, the modern reader may be extremely uncomfortable with the racial and social stereotypes...")<br/><br/>
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<br/><br/>  No matter how ugly these scenes are, the preface concludes, "These books are part of our heritage. They are a window on our real past."  And all of these books were eventually re-written, though even those changes offer their own cultural clues. <br/><br/>By the 1950s Mary Mason's simple getaway car had become an elaborate two-man submarine, and jewel thief Mary
was transformed into a spy for a massive foreign espionage ring &mdash; presumably reflecting anti-communist Cold War tensions. 
<br/><br/><br/>
<center><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0448095041?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0448095041"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Mystery%20at%20Lilac%20Inn%20Nancy%20Drew%20cover.gif" border=0></A></center>

<br/><br/>But the changes
also stripped away much of the gritty personality from the characters, reducing them to the bland action-hero stand-ins we know today, and making them more suitable for 
an ongoing series of massively-franchised children's books.  In the original books, the Nancy Drew character was much more realistic, which explains the impact she had on earlier generations. <em>USA Today</em> even reports that on the Supreme Court, <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2010-04-27-nancydrew27_ST_N.htm">all three female justices</A> cite that original Nancy Drew as an influence &mdash; Sandra Day O'Connor, Ruth Ginsburg, and Sonia Sotomayor.
<br/><br/>
But now the updated characters are so insistently good, they almost dare readers to invent their own sexy subtexts.  In one episode of <em>That 70s Show</em>, Jackie insists on reading 
a Nancy Drew mystery out loud during a sleep-over with her boyfriend.  ("Dammit." says Kelso. "Why do I always have to Bess?")
And in 2004 the commenters at <em>Something Awful</em> even <a href="http://www.somethingawful.com/d/comedy-goldmine/hardy-boys-nancy.php">submitted their own sexy re-imagined covers</A> for both Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys books.
<br/><br/>
<center><a href="http://www.somethingawful.com/d/comedy-goldmine/hardy-boys-nancy.php"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Nancy%20Drew%20lesbian%20parody%20book%20cover.jpg" width=200 border=0></A></center>
<br/>
The world's changed a lot, even if Nancy Drew hasn't. (If Nancy Drew is a lesbian, don't tell Pamela Sue Martin.  In 1978, when she was 25, 
the TV actress who'd played Nancy Drew in the 1970s did a naked pictorial in the prototypical men's magazine <em>Playboy</em>.) I want to believe modern Nancy Drew writers understood this secret intrigue when they created a 1995 TV version. Its last episode ends with Nancy <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rc48Pbugr8&#038;NR=1">abruptly breaking things off</A> with her boyfriend Ned. <br/><br/>"He was right. Our relationship <em>is</em> a mystery. But it's the one mystery I can't seem to solve..."
<br/><br/>
This year marks the 80th anniversary of the very first Nancy Drew books. But it's important to remember that no matter how quaint she started out, every once in a while, even those original old-fashioned Nancy books would still blurt out something so surprisingly
progressive and modern, it'd make you want to cheer. For example, in the 1933 book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557091641?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1557091641">Password to Larkspur Lane</A>, Nancy tells her friend Helen to wear
<em>hiking</em> clothes, since they're sneaking through the woods. I think this should be hung over the arch at the Nancy Drew School of Business.
<br/>
<blockquote>
"We are going to use strategy, but not charm, so put that frilly frock away."
</blockquote>
<br/>
You go, girl!<br/><br/> Don't let anyone tell you how to behave &mdash; no matter <em>what</em> decade it is!

<br/><br/><br/>
<center><em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557091641?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1557091641">Click here to purchase the original 1933 text<br/>
for Password to Larkspur Lane</A></em></center><br/>
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		<title>The Most Depressing Children&#8217;s Books Ever Written</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When children's picture book authors go bad &#8212; a lot of good characters will die. <strong>By&#160;Destiny</strong>]]></description>
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<strong>Okay, Curious George didn't <em>really</em> die</strong>  from an overdose of ether. But after an exhaustive review, I've discovered that some children's picture books can be just as depressing.
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<strong>1.  The Jester Has Lost His Jingle</strong><br/>
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<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0964456303?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0964456303"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/The Jester Has 
Lost His Jingle.gif" align=left border=0></A></td><td valign="top"><blockquote>"Here I lie, I have a tumor...<br/><br/>
And you ask me where's my sense of humor?"</blockquote><br/><br/>This book was written by a 22-year-old diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease, who died just before it was published.

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Published posthumously, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0964456303?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0964456303">it became a best-seller in 1995</A>, and received a touching afterward by Maurice Sendak. 	("I remember the face &mdash; the enthusiasm....")
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No one laughs at this jester's jokes in the castle, so he tries downtown, where he's confronted by the sight of a miserable homeless man. ("It's kind of hard to laugh or joke / when you're unemployed and completely broke.") A man smoking a cigarette on a graffiti-covered subway explains to the jester that "The world is not a funny place. It's filled with pain and tears." And then the jester visits the hospital's cancer ward...
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Eventually the jester brings a smile to a little girl's face &mdash; and then, to the entire city, as the unusual plot of author David Saltzman lurches to a happy ending. 
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Six months later, Saltzman was dead.

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<strong>2.  Fireboat</strong><br/><br/>

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<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0142403628?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0142403628"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Fireboat September 11 book cover.gif" border=0></A> </centeR><br/>


Fluffy bunnies? Happy little puppies? Nope. This children's picture book culminates <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0142403628?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0142403628">with the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center</A>.
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Maira Kalman emphasizes that on 9/11, two airplanes "CRASHED, CRASHED, CRASHED into these two strong buildings...." It's illustrated with a two-page watercolor showing a cloud of debris plummeting from the top of the tower, to help young readers visualize the impending carnage. Turn the page, and another two-page watercolor shows flames sweeping uncontrollably through the buildings at ground zero. And then there's another two-page spread, showing exactly what that same fire looked like that night. 
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They're not quite the cheery images you'd want to savor before bedtime. It's the climax of a story about the history of New York's famous fireboat, the John J. Harvey, which sprayed water on the burning towers all night with a volunteer crew. Which is why the book is called "Fireboat" &mdash; and why parents received no warning whatsoever that the book closes with the World Trade Center attacks until it surprises them in the book's final pages.
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"Thanks for making me cry my head off in front of my child!!" wrote <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Freview%2FR1S2KH9GK9V0J2%3Fie%3DUTF8%26ASIN%3D0399239537%26nodeID%3D%26ref_%3Dcm_cr_pr_perm%26tag%3D%26linkCode%3D&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957">one reviewer</A> on Amazon.

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<strong>3. Rickie and Henri</strong>
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"Unfortunately, Curious George's parents were both dead, since they'd already been shot in the head by local hunters."
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That's basically the story Jane Goodall tells in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/069840002X?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=069840002X">Rickie and Henrie.</A> Though she uses a real monkey instead of Curious George.
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Based on a true story, Goodall's picture book describes a mother monkey who tenderly holds her little baby &mdash; a female monkey named Rickie. Rickie's mother carried her from place to place, and "comforted her when she was hurting or frightened." But in the next picture, Rickie is shown screaming beside her mother's dead body, as a man with a gun walks away.
<br/><br/>
And no, he's not wearing a yellow hat...
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"The hunter seized Rickie and pushed her into a tiny basket, while the infant chimpanzee, who didn't understand, went on screaming and screaming for her mother."  (Who does nothing, because she's already dead.) In the next illustration, the scared little monkey is locked in a cage on a  pole, and she's already been wounded by shotgun pellets. But "however much she cried, there was no one to help." 
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Eventually the little female monkey is rescued and taken to <a href="http://janegoodall.org/">Jane Goodall's institute</A> and sanctuary. Where Goodall decided to write a very depressing children's picture book about her...






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<strong>4.  One Candle</strong><br/><br/>

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<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060085606?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0060085606"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/One Candle.jpg" border=0></A>



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A family gathers for their Hanukkah celebration. And then grandma <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060085606?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0060085606">starts reminiscing about Buchenwald</A>...
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"We were separated from our families and put into a camp," she says, remembering her experience as a 12-year-old girl in the Nazi death camps.

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Working in a kitchen guarded by an intimidating Nazi soldier (standing with a German shepherd guard dog), she'd shared the barracks with her 13-year-old sister. And most of the book is told as a horrified flashback, as the girl remembers trying to smuggle a potato past the guard for a Hanukkah celebration. 
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The book explains the death camps as simply as possible.  ("The Germans didn't like the Jews...") But another relative at the present-day Hanukkah celebration counters with a more nuanced perspective. "The Germans didn't like a lot of people. It wasn't only the Jews." 
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And then the flashback returns to the death camps....
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<strong>5.  On That Day</strong>
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<center><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0971718008?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0971718008"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/On That Day September 11 book by Andrea Patel cover.jpg" width=160 border=0></A></center>

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"Fireboat" may have covered the World Trade Center attacks, but at least it wasn't done with a tissue paper collage. Because ironically, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0971718008?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0971718008">that had already been
done by Andrea Patel</A>, a Massachusetts schoolteacher &mdash; and pastry chef, and musician. She represents the earth as a big blue 
circle of tissue paper, then writes "One day a terrible thing happened," as a big red splotch appears on that circle.
<br/><br/>
"The world, which had been blue and green and bright and very big and really round and pretty peaceful, got badly hurt. 
<br/><br/>
"Many people were injured. Many other people died. And everyone was sad."
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Then she tries explaining terrorism to children &mdash; using more tissue paper collages. There's a tornado, an earthquake, and a fire &mdash; all bad things that happen naturally.  "But sometimes bad things happen because people act in mean ways and hurt each other on purpose," she writes.  "That's what happened on that day, a day when it felt like the world broke." Then there's a picture of the pieces of the world blowing away and drifting across the blank whiteness of the next page...
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The book was finished within weeks of the September 11 attacks, and 
Patel donated all the book's proceeds to a 9/11 charity, but the whole exercise is still a little disturbing. People fumbled for the right response to the terrorist attacks, and in the end, this is probably Patel's most inadvertently honest sentence. 
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"This is scary, and hard to understand, even for grown-ups."
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<strong>6.  Smoky Nights</strong>
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<tr><td><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0152018840?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0152018840"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Smoky Night.jpg" border=0></A></td><td>It's the Los Angeles riots &mdash; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0152018840?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0152018840">through the eyes of a child</A>. 
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			What could possibly be more magical?
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"It can happen when people get angry..." a boy's mother says. 
"After a while it's like a game." The boy sees fires, and watches two men stealing a TV from an appliance store. Then another window breaks at a shoe store, and two men and a woman climb in through the broken glass.</td></tr></table>

That night his own apartment building is set on fire, and the boy and his mother have to flee to a shelter for safety. Author Eve Bunting actually lives in Los Angeles (and her illustrator lived
just an hour away).  Which is why one of her next fun-filled stories was about <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0395845181?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0395845181">poor day laborers fighting
for work in a Los Angeles parking lot</A>.
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<strong>7. Michael Rosen's Sad Book</strong><br/><br/>

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<tr><td valign="top" >"What makes me most sad is when I think about my son Eddie. 
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"He died."
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"I loved him very, very much but he died anyway." 
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That's Michael Rosen, a British broadcaster, and his son died of meningitis in 2004 at the age of 19. "Sometimes this makes me really angry," Rosen writes in his book. (Its title?
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0763641049?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0763641049">Michael Rosen's Sad Book</A>.) "Maybe you think I'm happy in this picture. Really I'm sad but pretending I'm happy."</td><td align="right" valign="top"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0763641049?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0763641049"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Michael Rosen's Sad Book.jpg" border=0></A> </td></tr></table>

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Rosen was 56 when the tragedy struck, and he's startlingly open about the experience of coping with a loss. Why is he smiling and pretending to be happy? 
<br/><br/>
"I'm doing that because I think people won't like me if I look sad."
<br/><br/>It's a depressing read, but it's also a brave moment of personal honesty. And maybe he's also sending us a message about depressing children's books.<br/><br/>Sometimes the truth can be very unpleasant...
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<strong>See Also:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/10/31/lost-horrors-ending-found-on-youtube/">Lost "Horrors" Ending Found on YouTube</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/03/26/six-freakiest-childrens-tv-rock-bands/">Six Freakiest Children's TV Rock Bands</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/02/09/blossom-dearies-conjunction-junction-romance/">Blossom Dearie's Conjunction Junction Romance?</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/10/29/how-gay-were-the-hardy-boys/">How Gay Were the Hardy Boys?</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/04/10/homeland-security-%20follies/">Homeland Security Follies</A>


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		<title>Ten Albums that Defined the Dot Com Era &#8211; Part 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Robles</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remembering acid-soaked sushi on New Year's Eve, 1999 &#8212; and five more definitive dotcom-era albums. <strong>By&#160;Steve&#160;Robles</strong><br/>]]></description>
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<em><a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/11/21/ten-albums-that-defined-the-dot-com-era/">Click Here for Part One</A></em>
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<strong>I spent New Year's Eve 1999</strong> at my ecstasy dealer's condo in E-ville (natch), staring at a spectacular view of San Francisco Bay. And even the twinkly bright city sported a patchy waterfront fog like the chin pubes on a 1990s hipster...<br/><br/>

I'd spent the entire decade with the same girl, and as we approached the door to an obscene feast of cheese, booze, and drugs &mdash; we were stopped short by a pair of very pretty and very fucked up people.<br/><br/><!--adsense--><br/><br/>

"Oh my god," the gorgeous brunette half giggled, half implored, "do NOT eat the sushi!" <br/><br/>With that they stumbled down the stairs to god knows where. It was only 11 p.m...
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We'd arrived late, and <em>thank Christ</em>. The party people were <em>not</em> happy, as Mr. E had generously spiked the catered sushi with liquid LSD. And while I certainly admired the opulence, I couldn't understand why he did it, since he &mdash; and most of the kids there &mdash; were more about pills and coke. (Plus, I'm not a fan of the Pearl Harbor approach to getting your friends ripped to the tits on acid. Or your enemies.)<br/><br/>

It was a great night &mdash; despite the grumblings of some who weren't as fortunate as we were in our early warning about the hazards of the hamachi. We watched as the clock struck midnight, ignoring the media hype about a coming Y2K apocalypse, yet feeling on the brink of <em>something</em>. <br/><br/>
For me it was huge personal change, good and bad. But because I'm not really a coke guy (well, sure, there's Vegas and... well, you smell what the Rock is cookin') &mdash; and because I had to drive us home &mdash; I stood out on the balcony of a brand new condo, built and rented with dot-com dollars, the only person there who wasn't on drugs.
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What was I thinking?<br/><br/>
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<strong>1. Kruder &#038; Dorfmeister &mdash; The K&#038;D Sessions</strong>
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Like I said before, this list is not in any kind of order. But, sure, placement means a lot, and in <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/11/21/ten-albums-that-defined-the-dot-com-era/">Part 1</A> of this top 10 list, my placement of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BVXYRM?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B002BVXYRM">Kid A</A> in the  #1 spot was no accident.<br/><br/>

So I've certainly wrestled with this decision again for "Part 2". I feel like the following album is just as top-notch a time capsule for the period as any piece of art or expression. But in the 1990s, if you were anywhere in San Francisco where music was being played &mdash; apart from Lucky 13, the late, great Fulton Street Bar, or Zeitgeist &mdash; you heard <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000G257?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00000G257">The K&#038;D Sessions</A>, whether you liked it or not. And most MDMA-dabbling, sexuality-exploring, HTML-coding city dwellers liked it.
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As downtempo DJ fodder, this record was as necessary to your arsenal as the Bible is to a missionary. As something you'd put on at your place after being up on E all night, it was quite simply perfect. (Not too quiet, not too perky...) As music to bang to, it was even better than Sade. And it holds up easily to this day, embodying the best of what DJ culture had to offer, tastefully, artfully, and not without wit ("Kruder and... Dorfmeister?").
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<strong>2. Beck &mdash; Midnite Vultures</strong><br/><br/>

<center><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMj0ogLTweU&#038;feature=related"><img src="http://www.destinyland.org/images/Beck%20-%20Midnight%20vultures.jpg" alt="Beck - Midnight vultures" title="Beck - Midnight vultures" width="300" height="300" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-653" /></a>
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Beck took Prince's advice to heart &mdash; to party like it was 1999 &mdash; when the year actually came. And he pushed his tongue-in-cheek flirtations with blue-eyed soul to its limit, from the James Brown dance moves to the over-the-top blue-eyed soul wailing on the quintessential nerd ballad, "Debra." It was a stroke of genius for Beck to intentionally counteract the angst of the entire decade in 1999 with a record so giddily fun that it made his previous, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000003TBP?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000003TBP">Odelay!</A> look practically dour.
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It was different than the "K&#038;D Sessions," which was best when coming back from the club/party/Bacchanalian clusterfuck. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000030009?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000030009">Midnite Vultures</A> was the record you'd play on your way out while popping the pills or chopping the pills or hiding the pills or maybe even shoving 'em up yer arse (if you had the proclivity to do so). <br/><br/>What I'm saying is that there were lots of pills around...
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<strong>3. LTJ Bukem &mdash; Progression Sessions</strong><br/><br/>

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When compiling this list, I realized I'd almost forgotten about drum and bass. But while it's rare to hear this genre in its "pure" form 
these days, its influence can be heard in dubstep &mdash; all the rage this year &mdash; and on the London scene with acts like <a href="http://www.myspace.com/joyorbison">Joy Orbison</a>.
And at the turn of the millennium, drum and bass was a bold new form that embraced and exploited technology. In fact, it could not exist without it. <br/><br/>

What was fascinating about drum and bass out in the clubs was how it cleaved a wedge between dancers on the dance floor. The shuffling, intricate rhythms of d&#038;b aren't kind to the amateur booty-shaker, so you'd get a mix of weed-smokin' head-nodders <em>(raises hand)</em> plus those bold enough and skilled enough to pull some amazing, post-breakdance moves.<br/><br/>

Roni Size was arguably as influential as Bukem, but it was <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000088EGQ?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000088EGQ">Bukem's frequent live shows with MC Conrad</A> that endeared him to San Franciscans. Still does.<br/><br/><br/>

<strong>4. Various Artists &mdash; Rushmore (Soundtrack to the Film)</strong><br/><br/>

<center><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOSzGYKaJGE"><img src="http://www.destinyland.org/images/rushmore_original_motion_pi.jpg" alt="rushmore_original_motion_pi" title="rushmore_original_motion_pi" width="301" height="300" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-654" /></a>
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You know what I remember about the 1990s? The yuppie fear of car-keying, as gentrification kicked into high gear in former working-class neighborhoods like the Mission and SOMA. The pitched battle between the recently enfranchised and the constantly disenfranchised. The inevitable defeat of the latter.
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As a nerdy outsider from a low-income neighborhood, I actually had things in common with both groups, so I tended to stay out of the argument...<br/><br/>

One thing I can say for sure, only one of these groups' contingents was listening to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000HZPY?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00000HZPY">the "Rushmore" soundtrack</A>. Mark Mothersbaugh's wittily wistful sensibilities mixed with mild moroseness to create a great soundtrack &mdash; not just to the film, but also to long-winded, angst-ridden posts to your LiveJournal. <em>Shudder.</em>
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<strong>5. Moby &mdash; Play </strong><br/><br/>

<centeR><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enNE2oSTCKs&#038;feature=related"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Moby_Play_cover.jpg" alt="moby" title="moby" width="384" height="384" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-655" /></a></center>
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Ugh. There, I said it. Not exactly one of my favorite records, by not exactly one of my favorite artists. I just can't risk people thinking that omitting it reflected a failure to grasp what people were listening to at the time.
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So for you douchebags, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000J6AG?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00000J6AG">here you go</A>. And for the rest of you, I sure hope you enjoyed "Play"ing with me as I reflected on what was &mdash; no matter how you slice it &mdash; a fascinating era...in music.<BR/><br/><center>
<em><a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/11/21/ten-albums-that-defined-the-dot-com-era/">Click Here for Ten Albumds That Defined the Dot Com Era - Part One</A></em>
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<strong>See Also:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/10/12/dan-the-automator-remixes-the-blue-angels/">Dan the Automator Remixes the Blue Angels</A><Br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/02/14/ipod-levy-the-perfect-thing-interview/">How the iPod Changes Culture</A><BR/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/12/28/ten-video-moments-from-2006/">10 Video Moments from 2006</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/03/paul-mccartney-on-drugs">Paul McCartney on Drugs</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/04/21/eight-druggiest-rock-star-stories/">Eight Druggiest Rock Star Stories</A><br/>

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		<title>Ten Albums That Defined the Dot Com Era</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Robles</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What music brings back memories of geek dreams, easy money and the glory days of Napster? <strong>By&#160;Steve&#160;Robles</strong><br/>]]></description>
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<strong>So where were you 10 years ago?</strong>
<br/><br/>
Making more money than you were entitled to? Getting involved in a drug-fueled polyamorous relationship? Thinking about how after almost 20 years of prescience, Prince's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002KY8?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000002KY8">1999</A> might become oddly irrelevant?
<br/><br/>
Okay, you <em>may</em> be forgiven if you weren't having as much fun as you <em>should</em>  have been having during the dot-com VC era. (Not by me. But whatever...) But there's no absolution if you weren't at least listening to some interesting music. This <em>was</em> the time of Napster's infinite-mp3-download-orgy, fer chrissakes!
<br/><br/>
I know, I know, there doesn't seem to be much nostalgia for that time. For comparison, it was only 10 years after Kent State that the creative process began that spawned <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000G3I2?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00000G3I2">The Big Chill</A>. And not only am I unsure that this generation is capable of such a piece, I'm unsure that anyone is even interested in trying!
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<br/><br/>
A lot of people are entitled to their share of bitterness over the burst of the dotcom bubble. Someone sold a lot of kids on the idea that the Brave New World had been reached. And when that wave of prosperity which brought us there &mdash; for a happy, shiny moment &mdash; rolled back violently, these kids found out even drugs wouldn't help.
<br/><br/>
But it's time for us to realize that the brevity of the whole dot-com era helps us distill its magic, as well as that bleakness which followed (and still continues to this day). At the time as someone who was older than most of the people I knew, I'd seen enough shit to enjoy the good times while they were there &mdash; and this attitude continues to inform my perspective.
<br/><br/>
Hence this piece...
<br/><br/>
But enough philosophizin'. If you love music like I do, these albums should trigger whatever nostalgia you feel is deserved by those times. Or maybe we can just be fascinated by the fact that 10 years from now, it's doubtful that the word "album" would even be applicable to such a list.
<br/><br/>
Whatever. Let's play!
<br/><br/><br/>
<strong>1.  Radiohead &mdash; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BVXYRM?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B002BVXYRM">Kid A</A></strong><br/><br/>
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<br/><br/>
This list isn't in any particular order, but even so, I think this is a great place to start.
<br/><br/>
Today bands like Phoenix and Animal Collective think nothing of fusing elements of what used to be called "electronica" into a "band" context. But when the group that inherited the mantle of "The Greatest Rock Band in the World" from U2 seemed to barely unpack their guitars from their cases &mdash; in favor of sounds more akin to Aphex Twin &mdash; it was a bold step into the future. 

<br/><br/>
Of course, the reaction from the rock crowd was a bit hyperbolic. If you listen to it now, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BVXYRM?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B002BVXYRM">Kid A</A> is hardly a rejection of all things rock. The acoustic lament "How to Disappear Completely," the fuzz bass in "The National Anthem," the electric piano in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QMC2LC?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000QMC2LC">Morning Bell</A> &mdash; all of these represent a record grounded in song sensibility.
<br/><br/>
But yes, all these years later, as a DJ you can still work "Everything In Its Right Place" in its right place. Hypnotic &mdash; and propelled by the Fender Rhodes electric piano that defined this era in the band's history &mdash; "Everything" is a full, unabashed embrace of a new kind of pop that arguably hadn't been pushed forward since David Byrne and Brian Eno's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E5N634?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000E5N634">My Life in the Bush of Ghosts</A>.
<br/><br/><br/>
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<br/><br/>
Kid A also allowed bespectacled hipsters who were way-too-Wilco to be caught dead listening to Hooverphonic a way to hear beats and blips they otherwise couldn't have accessed. So, uh, there's that.
<br/><br/><BR/>


<strong>2.  The Flaming Lips &mdash; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000JC6C?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00000JC6C">The Soft Bulletin</A></strong><br/><br/>
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While some artists were ending the decade with a party vibe, Oklahoma's previously experimental freaks the Flaming Lips finally popped out of their chrysalis with a highly personal and intimate concept album &mdash; about death, mostly. <br/><br/>Couched in an inspired dynamic of lush soundscapes and (virtual) orchestration, mixed with a dash of punk sensibility &mdash; one lonely mic on the drum kit &mdash; Wayne Coyne's lyrics about the death of his father ("Waitin' on a Superman") and the band's bizarre struggles ("The Spiderbite Song") helped usher in the new age of post-ironic pseudo-sincerity.
<br/><br/><br/>
<strong>
3.  Thievery Corporation &mdash; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004WFIZ?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00004WFIZ">The Mirror Conspiracy</A><br/><br/>
</strong>
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<br/>
For the sake of disclosure, I am a DJ, and was arguably at the height of my "career" during the dot com era. So while you'll have to forgive me a bit of nostalgia and obvious subjectivity in this list's content, if you're in my demographic and think you didn't hear Thievery Corporation at that time &mdash; you're wrong. You might have wanted to hear the Dwarves instead, but you heard TC all the same.  <br/><br/>There's no use denying the overwhelming presence of DJ-friendly acts and works on this list. But chill music, frisky enough to rock a club or a house party, meant the D.C. duo was a DJ's best friend. And at the same time I can recall hearing "The Mirror Conspiracy" blaring over PC speakers just as much as the Mackies.
<br/><br/><br/>
<strong>4. Tool &mdash; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005B36H?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00005B36H">
Lateralus<br/></A><br/>
</strong>
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<br/><br/><br/>
Despite the above statements on the ubiquity and influence of electronica, it wasn't <em>all</em> about blips, beeps and knob-twiddling. There were also plenty of former nerds and misanthropes who still needed an outlet for frustrations that MDMA and getting laid hadn't quite ironed out.
<br/><br/>
In fact, I remember when this record came out &mdash; having almost forgotten the sheer boyish thrill of … metal! Rock Band was years away, and Hot Topic hadn't started marketing Iron Maiden shirts to 14-year-olds whose parents had barely hit puberty during the band's heyday. So indulgences like Lateralus were still a bit taboo. 
<br/>
<br/>
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<br/>However, this album has nothing to do with the adolescent nature of metal of yore. Like all of Tool's music, the art-rock flirting and complex themes and lyrics on songs like <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QMCIRA?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000QMCIRA">Schism</A> make them strictly for grown-ups.
<br/><br/><br/>
<strong>5.  Air &mdash; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004SCAQ?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00004SCAQ">
The Virgin Suicides</A><br/><br/>
</strong>

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<br/><br/>

For me, this record represents change. 
<br/><br/>
Personally, it was a time of intense personal evolution and tumult. 
For Air, it was a complete reversal of the dreamy, kitschy charm of their debut album, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002UXBMC?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B0002UXBMC">Moon Safari</A>. An opiate dream of a soundtrack, it owed as much to Pink Floyd's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002UA4?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000002UA4">soundtrack</A> to the film <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007PAMJM?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B0007PAMJM">More</A> as anything happening on a contemporary level at the time. "The Virgin Suicides" flew in the face of expectations for the French band, while helping create the moody atmosphere in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00003CXH1?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00003CXH1">Sofia Coppola's debut film</A>.
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<br/><br/>
For the ecstasy-driven culture of the dot commers, it presaged the comedown that one must expect when getting so high. Minor keys, dark themes, and no happy ending. It was still only 2000, and we were still sucking on the VC tit. But not for long. <br/><br/>Did Air know something we didn't?
<br/><br/><br/>
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		<title>&#8220;Every Sizzler restaurant in America?!&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Destiny</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why one man and his wife want to photograph every single restaurant in the all-American steakhouse chain. <strong>By&#160;Destiny</strong><br/>]]></description>
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<br/><strong>"Some people want world peace,"</strong> says Reed Fish. "Others want to photograph every Sizzler in the USA. 
<br/><br/>
"A dream is a dream..."<br/><br/>
Reed and his wife Liz are <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thefishes/the-fishes-are-photographing-every-sizzler-in-the">raising money on the internet</A> to fund a tour of every Sizzler restaurant in America &mdash; which they'll photograph. And then self-publish the photos in a book. Called "Every Sizzler in the United States of America."
<br/><br/>
"Just as there's beauty in every person, there's beauty in every Sizzler," they explain on their fundraising page. "We make the photographs blurry to help bring this out..."
<br/><br/>
"Hopefully, a gallery show will follow."
<br/><br/>
And within a few weeks they'd attracted over $2,000. Kodak even donated film. The average donation size was over $50. And they'd proved something 
important. "We had the guts to do this," Liz wrote on their blog, "and no matter what happens, I'm proud of that." <br/>

<br/>
<center><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&#038;hl=en&#038;q=13570+lincoln+way,+auburn,+ca&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;hq=&#038;hnear=13570+Lincoln+Way,+Auburn,+Placer,+California+95603&#038;z=16&#038;layer=c&#038;cbll=38.928809,-121.055446&#038;panoid=uhzMCwht24FpMDb4dGEBWQ&#038;cbp=12,104.13,,0,5"><img src="http://www.destinyland.org/images/The%20most%20beautiful%20Sizzler%20restaurant%20in%20Auburn%20California.jpg" width=468 border=0></A><br/><em><font size=2>Image via Google Maps street view</font></em></center>
<br/>
But why Sizzler's steakhouses? "Sizzler is Americana..." their page explains, grasping at the ghost behind this peculiar fascination. "If there isn't one in your town, there probably used to be..." In their web video, the couple fumbles to explain their quest's strange power.
<blockquote>
REED:  We really feel that chains, and especially Sizzler, tells us a lot about who we are as a culture.
</blockquote><br/>
Or, as they suggest in another part of the video.
<blockquote>
LIZ:  We're doing this so you don't have to.
<br/><br/>
REED: We're taking one for the team.
</blockquote>
<br/>
So who are these people? Reed Fish is <em>that</em> Reed fish &mdash; the screenwriter behind the quirky 2006 romantic comedy <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000R8YC36?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000R8YC36">I'm Reed Fish,</A> which <em>Variety</em> described as a "Charming, rural version of a pre-wedding panic." Two years ago the real Reed Fish married Liz, a professional photographer. And that's when the weirdness began...<br/><br/>
Their Sizzler-rific  quest is now 16 percent complete. Reed announces in their video that "We've already shot 34 of the 206..." While there's still 172 restaurants left to photograph, at least they're down to just 150 cities, Liz adds in a <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thefishes/the-fishes-are-photographing-every-sizzler-in-the/posts/1590">blog post</A>.  And she provides a glimpse of life on the Sizzler-photographing road.<br/><br/>
"Our record so far is six Sizzlers in one day. The six-Sizzler day is actually kind of a rough day &mdash; because of navigating, traffic and, honestly &mdash; burnout."
<br/><br/>
<div align=center><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Liz%20Fish%20takes%20a%20picture%20of%20a%20Sizzler%20restaurant.jpg" width=234><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Sizzler%20art%20photo%20by%20Liz%20Fish.jpg" width=234></div>

<br/>
<br/>

It's not the first time someone has tried this. Thirteen years ago, when the web was young, Jason Alan Pfaff launched <a href="http://www.p7a77.net/dennys/reviews/alpha/index.html">"Project: Denny's</A>, attempting to visit as many of the chain's 2,500 franchises as possible. 

<br/><br/>But Reed wants to hit <em>all</em> the Sizzlers &mdash; so they're turning to the internet for support.  So far "the Fishes" have attracted <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thefishes/the-fishes-are-photographing-every-sizzler-in-the/backers">38 backers</A> &mdash; and <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thefishes/the-fishes-are-photographing-every-sizzler-in-the/comments">three comments</A>. ("Don't forget the menus!") &mdash; on the fundraising site Kickstarter. "If our project gets funded on Kickstarter, we're definitely going to try to get it all done before the end of the year," says Reed. ("It would be a mandate," adds Liz.) They've drawn $2025 in pledges, but with just six days left to raise the remaining $10,000 needed.<br/><br/> "But hey &mdash; a few weeks ago, if someone had told you 34 people would back The Fishes for almost $1700 (so far) to go photograph every Sizzler in America, would you have believed it?"<br/><br/>
I interviewed Liz and Reed Fish about the weirdness, the art, and the secret American passion &mdash; and how it all led them on a collision course with a corporation named Sizzler.
<br/><br/>
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<strong>10Z:</strong>  Have you talked to Sizzler?
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  We have. Essentially, giving them a head's up, because I didn't want them to hear about it from someone else
who wasn't me. We had a good conversation &mdash; they thought it was a fun idea, and they were excited that it was
their brand being promoted. But our strategy is, we're not doing an ad for Sizzler. We don't want to have an <em>adversarial</em>
relationship, but we...
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  You're half afraid someone's going to claim offense with it and say, "Okay, I'm going to sue you and prevent you from doing this."
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  Obviously, this isn't <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060838582?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0060838582">Fast Food Nation</A>! We're not taking a stance about whether Sizzler is good or bad. In a way, it's 
more of a documentary project.
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  "Hi. I'm planning an art installation with photos of all your franchises." So how'd Sizzler react? 
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  The thing is, I'd left a message &mdash; I just said what I was doing so they'd call me back, so I didn't get to hear their first response. I didn't get to hear, "You want to do what?!" <br/><br/>And I did most of the talking... I wanted to let them know that we didn't really want them to &mdash; we weren't asking them for money. And I think I did say, "But if you want to give us a gift card so that we can have dinner on the road, that'd be great."
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  How'd he respond? 
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  He just kind of laughed. And didn't send me a gift card. They thought I was a little crazy. 
<br/><br/>
Honestly, they loved the idea. I think they just thought, "Wow, this is great this guy wants to do this..." And they thought it was funny. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  On your web page, <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thefishes/the-fishes-are-photographing-every-sizzler-in-the/comments">someone demanded</A> "Where's the disclaimer that says this project was underwritten by Sizzlers?" And Reed responded: "Okay, here's the disclaimer: Sizzler is in no way affiliated with this project. That's why we're on Kickstarter trying to raise funds!"
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  I've also had people say, "Why are you putting this on Kickstarter? That's the dummest thing, because you should just have Sizzler pay
for this." And it's like, "No. It's an art project, and we want to have control over it. It's not an ad." Its genesis was completely different from anything that
Sizzler would create. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  And we also &mdash; if it was a campaign from Sizzler, we wouldn't be <em>trying</em> to raise money. We'd just be doing it, and trying to get
press as we're doing it. The whole trying to raise money &mdash; it's just counterintuitive, in a way. Especially considering that we're pretty far from our goal right now.
Sizzler can be a tough sell. Especially when you're pitching it as a serious art project.
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong> I think we've had a hard time figuring out how to promote, because I think we feel like 
if we're trying to promote it as an art project, people don't think of it as super-serious, even though we really do.
But we're presenting it in sort of a light way to bring people in.
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  We feel like it's a populist art project. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  Yeah. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  It's not just for the hoity-toity crowd in New York. We love those people, but ...
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  Maybe we're between crowds...
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong> But how do you really feel about Sizzler?
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong> I swear, when we tell people, for the most part their face lights up. "Oh, I love Sizzler."
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  It's kind of nostalgic.
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  And at the same time, our friends don't go to Sizzler at this point. It's almost if you &mdash; it's almost ironically, if you're in the hipster/L.A. crowd or whatever. It's not something that people go to quite a lot. But it's one of those things &mdash; it's actually good.
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  I think we're approaching an answer to the biggest question. Why Sizzler?  
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong> Because it was Americana. If you say "Sizzler", everyone's like, "Oh, god, I used to love it when I was a kid."
Everyone. <br/><br/>It really evokes a reaction to anyone who grew up in the United States... They have a feeling about Sizzler. I believe a lot of the
ones that have closed were in places like Missouri, Ohio, and Wisconsin... What I've heard from people is 
"Oh, I grew up in Connecticut. There used to be one there, but it's gone."
<br/><br/>
That's one of the other reasons why we think it's really great. It's kind of emblematic of the change in the culture.
It's like your bankruptcies and closings &mdash; we've actually, in our travels so far, gone to two Sizzlers that were
closed that were on the web site. So we drove over there, and it's kind of like the scene in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00009NHC9?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00009NHC9">Vacation</A> where they
drive to Walley World and it's closed.  We drove from Los Angeles to New York, and the Sizzler was closed.
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong> But there were other Sizzlers in New York, and it was okay. And at the same time, we've seen new Sizzlers go up. And the development is different now. They'll be in mall parking lots &mdash; there'll be a Home Depot and the anchor store, and then there's the Sizzler. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong> Sizzler itself is aspirational. It's a very middle class &mdash; middle to lower-class chain. Those are the people that go there. And I remember &mdash; it was a special occasion to go to Sizzler when you're a kid. It's like, "Oh yeah! We're going to Sizzler." And it's all you can eat, which is &mdash; nothing more American than that.
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong> Yeah, it's <em>value</em>. I think all those things are very much things that we seek as Americans. It's something that maybe we don't think
about being quintessentially American, but I think it represents a lot of things throughout the years that, from the 1950s...
It's one of the original chains.
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong> I think there's things that are specifically Sizzler, and also things about it that are just more general, in terms of 
the way Americans embrace chains and chain restaurants and stores.
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<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  And yet neither of you has childhood memories of Sizzler?
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  	But when Reed told me &mdash; when we initially talked about this project, 
I immediately was like, "Yes." I didn't have to explain &mdash; because you just get it.
Because my family used to go to Shakey's and Pizza Hut, and that for 
us was a very similar experience. It was a way that a family could go out, and it felt nice. At the time,
they used to wait on you. I'm the youngest of nine, so the fact that we could all go out was such
a big deal.
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong> I actually had the idea in college, 15 years ago. And I think &mdash; like, I don't know if it was our first date...
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  One of our first dates. "What are your dreams? What do you really want out of life?" And Reed said: "I want to photograph all the Sizzlers."
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong> If you tell a girl that, and she smiles and thinks it's great, you pretty much know then that that's who you should be with.
It just made so much sense for us to do it together, because I think it's something we both felt a passion for. And it was a great opportunity to do this kind of epic thing together &mdash; with your best friend and the person you have trust in and you believe in and trust artistically. It's been fantastic.
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  So what's it like photographing Sizzlers?
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  Sometimes you have to drive for hours, and sometimes it's a few minutes. But invariably we'll be driving up
to one and right before we see it, or when we see it, Liz will say something along the lines of: "Now that's a beautiful Sizzler..."
Such a genuine excitement from her at seeing the next Sizzler and seeing what it's going to look
like. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  There's definitely a variety of Sizzler styles. And I find a lot of the architecture interesting. I mean, we saw in &mdash; where was that? The flat Sizzler.
In New York &mdash; in Massapequa, there's one Sizzler that it's just &mdash; it has a flat roof. It's just a box. When you pull up to it, there was just something about the Sizzler that looks like a box that....
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong> It was the world's saddest Sizzler.
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  And I hate to say that, but ...
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  But one of them had to be the saddest.
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  And we noticed it had a "For Lease" sign. So once its lease is up, it'll probably be out of there.
It was sort of like this weird, sad Sizzler... <Br/><br/>And it's also about the neighborhood and the atmosphere. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  One of the larger themes about the project is the sameness of the American experience, of how wherever you are in the country,
you can eat the same food at the same restaurants and shop at the same stores. That for me was one of the central ideas about it.
But then in the execution about it, you go and find that maybe they do serve the same steak,
but in different buildings, in different neighborhoods. And all the people who work there bring their own unique experience to the
place. So no two are exactly alike.
<br/><br/>
Sizzlers are like snowflakes.
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  It's true, actually.
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  And then also, you meet the people there, who are real people, nice people &mdash; people just trying to make a living. 
What I think it has done for me is humanize this chain. Where you were kind of going in thinking this chain is emblematic of the United States and
the sameness everywhere &mdash; but there's humans behind it, and kind of an endearing human experience.
I relish the differences in all of them. And they're not exactly the same.
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  So what's the most dangerous Sizzler you've been too?
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  I think Sizzler is a very <em>non</em>-dangerous place. I think Sizzler, to me, is &mdash; like, it's safe. Sizzler is what it is, and it's not necessarily full of exciting stories, but it's beautiful nonetheless.
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  We did take Reed's dad with us and photographed some of the Sizzler's around San Diego... And he was just like, "I just don't understand why anyone would give you money for this." And he kept saying that, over and over. We went to two or three with him, and he just kind of stood around. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  Taking your dad to &mdash; that's the scariest moment of all. And that's my other favorite quote: "I just don't get why the photographs have to be blurry."  
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  I know it's a conceptual art project, but why <em>do</em> the photographs have to be blurry?
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  Well, a few reasons. I think it kind of enhances the beauty of the Sizzlers. And it gives them also a sense of nostalgia. 
It enhances the feeling you have. You have these kind of memories, and it's a subtle reference to that.<br/><br/>
And then the other theme we were talking about, in terms of the sameness of the chains &mdash; if you blur it, the actual
specificity of the site kind of melts away a little bit, so you don't know if you're looking at the Sizzler in Flagstaff or Barstow or
Orlando.
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  So what was it like photographing the Sizzler in Barstow?
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong> I have no comment. <br/><br/>I don't know if Barstow is renowned for being the most awesome place in the world &mdash; you stop to
go to the bathroom on the way from Las Vegas to L.A. &mdash; but I believe that the photo we took of the Barstow Sizzler is really beautiful.
So there is beauty in these places that we overlook. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  How's photographing in New York City?
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong> It was hard to do them all in one day. It felt like an epic day. I mean &mdash; I think it's Smithtown. You really feel like you're in a small town, in a way. It's just so much different than, let's say, the Queen's Sizzler in New York. <br/><br/>We really experienced some traffic and that New York driving where &mdash; and then we ended up having to go back to Brooklyn and drive across. It was one of those days where it's just like &mdash; you can't wait to get out of the car, because it was just such a difficult driving day.
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong> One of the great details is in Orlando. The Sizzlers there... they actually serve breakfast in Orlando! But in Orlando, they
 really cater to British tourists for breakfast. So you go in there, and it's all these British families in leisure soccer
gear hitting the buffet. And in the buffet they have beans and stewed tomatoes and all this British food. And it's really the weirdest, oddest thing.
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<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  I think a lot of people would say, "Oh, I wouldn't be able to spend that much time with my spouse." Or my girlfriend or 
boyfriend. It has a lot to do with our relationship... We inspire each other, in a way. 
And we do want to spend the time together. And it has been a really great experience, for that reason.
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  And so it's maybe a quest to find the most <em>romantic</em> Sizzler.
You get to do it with your best friend and the person you love the most &mdash; who gets you the most. I mean, geez, real honestly, does it get better? I don't think so. Photographing Sizzlers with your wife?
I mean &mdash; wow. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  What's the reaction you're getting to this project?  
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  It runs the gamut from people thinking this is the greatest thing ever to people saying, "You guys are idiots."
One guy said, "This is either the most brilliant thing I've ever seen or the stupidest thing I've ever seen." That to me is just about as
big a complement as you can give. We're really serious about it, but I kind of like that people maybe don't know if we're serious
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong> When I first heard about this, I just assumed Sizzler was funding you as a viral marketing campaign (like that stealthy paid placement in a real high school graduation speech for the movie <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002N1C1CO?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B002N1C1CO">"I Love You, Beth Cooper"</A>.)  The big question is: How can we be sure Sizzler isn't paying you?  
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong> In our video &mdash; and this interview &mdash; hopefully we come across genuine enough. 
We had been wondering that, and it's kind of
too bad that it's gotten to that point, and that's the first thing that people think. I'd do the same thing &mdash; I'd wonder, too.
<br/><br/>The fact also is, I'm a really bad liar (both Liz and I are)... The projects we choose may sometimes be wacky, but that doesn't mean we're
not serious about them. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  Seriously &mdash; it's the culmination of a year's-long dream?
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  I would say, 15 years.
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  Ironically, Sizzler declared bankruptcy during that time, in 1996.
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  That was a dark day for me. I remember where I was when I heard the news.  No, no, I'm just kidding. But it's been a long time coming. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  So how exactly will you pull off this nationwide road trip?
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  We took all of the Sizzlers off the web site, because they do list all the addresses. So we printed that out... 
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  They're all listed on the web site, and then we just went through and Googled all of them and where they are.
Because Sizzler doesn't have a map.
<br/><br/>
<strong>LIZ:</strong>  If there are multiple Sizzlers in a town, we just sort of map them out as we go...
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong>  And then after you've visited a Sizzler, you get to change the color of its pin on Google's map?
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  It's a great moment &mdash; just to get it off your to-do list. Sometimes you want to get to the end of the list. And that will feel good, when we change that last pin's color. That will feel like an accomplishment. That will feel like the culmination of a year's-long dream.
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong> What about all the Sizzlers in foreign countries? There's 81 Sizzlers outside the U.S. &mdash; scattered throughout Australia, Japan, China, Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, and Singapore.
<br/><br/>
<strong>REED:</strong>  That would be, I think, the sequel. <br/><br/>
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		<title>Secrets of Al Franken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Destiny</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The newest Senator from Minnesota enjoyed many strange adventures over the last 30 years &#8212; and even left behind some incriminating videos. <strong>By Destiny</strong><br/>]]></description>
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<br/><strong>Through 35 years in show business,</strong> he left a wake of bizarre sketches. ("Don't worry about your breath and your armpits, Al.</strong> It's your personality that stinks...") <br/>
<br/>
Web sites remembered Al Franken's strange past life as a movie and TV comedian when he joined the U.S. Senate last week  &mdash; in the ultimate weird (or all-American?) triumph. 
At the age of 25, Franken had started his career playing himself in this parody of a spray-on deodorant commercial in the 1976 movie <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005TPL1?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00005TPL1">Tunnel Vision</A>.  <br/><br/>"Hi. I'm one of the best-looking guys in town,"
he explains to a woman in a swimming pool. "Wanna go somewhere and shoot the shit?"
<br/><br/>
"Where do I meet you with my gun, feeb?" she replies.
<br/><br/>
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<br/><br/>
<strong>One More Saturday Night</strong>
<br/><br/>
Future-Senator Franken even lights up a joint in one rowdy 1986 movie &mdash;  and sings "I'm gonna get laid! I'm gonna get laid." ("Hey, I can't help it," he explains. "I'm a lesbian trapped inside 
a man's body.")  
<br/><br/>
In <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6302824273?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=6302824273">One More Saturday Night</A>, Franken played the singer in a scruffy local band &mdash; the Grateful Dead's Jerry Garcia produced some of the movie's music &mdash; and the movie ends with Franken's character taking Percodan and Demerol for a punch in the jaw.  ("Idiot could've gotten 20 of those if he'd asked for them," 
says a bandmember played by Tom Davis &mdash;  another <em>Saturday Night Live</em> writer who co-authored the movie's script with Franken.)
<br/><br/>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6302824273?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=6302824273"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Al Franken and Tom Davis Minnesota movie - One More Saturday Night.jpg" align=left width=120 style="margin-right: 10px; margin-left: 0px" border=0></A>
Their film resembles <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000035Z3J?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000035Z3J">Fast Times at Ridgemont High</A>, cross-cutting between several interlocking teen-oriented stories.
("Dad, did you ever have sex with any ladies besides Mom?") The widower dad gets busted having sex by the lake, but what's most fascinating is the script's perspective on the state of Minnesota &mdash;  which would later elect Franken their Senator!  
<br/><br/>
"The state of Minnesota has got more blonde, luscious, genetically pure Swedish women than any place in the world," Davis tells Franken. 
Al tries to wave Tom off of one hot prospect, saying "She's got kids," but their script supplies Tom with the perfect answer.  
<br/><br/>
"It's okay. They can watch."
<br/><br/>
And the most scandalous thing about the movie may appear in its closing credits, which thank James R. Thompson, the governor 
of...Illinois.  Franken's movie about a night in a small town in Minnesota was filmed entirely in Illinois, after Minnesota's Film Board deemed its script too obscene, according to Davis's recently-released <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802118801?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0802118801">biography</A>. 
<br/><br/>
He also reveals that this movie was never released on DVD &mdash;  or even into theatres, after it failed two test screenings in Times Square and Sacramento, California.

<br/><br/><BR/>
<center><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802118801?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0802118801"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Tom Davis Al Franken biography - Early Days of Saturday Night Live.jpg" width=400 border=0></A></center><br/><br/>

<strong>Over the Borderline</strong>
<br/><br/>
In March Davis released <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802118801?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0802118801">his tell-all memoir</A> about performing with Al Franken as a comedy team &mdash; including a drug stop at the Canadian border.  
Davis hurtled an incriminating hash pipe into a river &mdash; in front of the border police &mdash; who then insisted on detaining and strip searching both Davis 
and Franken, along with their friends. (One friend suggested next time, he'd hide a folded note for the officer between his butt checks.) But when the police tried to intimidate the future Senator, telling him privately that his partner had already confessed to everything,
Franken daringly improvised the perfect response.
<br/><br/>
"We didn't <em>mean</em> to kill that Indian! It was an accident!"
<br/><br/>
There's also a 1983 visit to Jamaica, in which Franken spends an hour teaching a native how to play Frisbee, 
"before he finally figured out she was a hooker."  But Davis's book also reveals the two most disturbing facts about the man from Minnesota. Franken's wife, Franni, was once Pauly Shore's baby sitter.
<br/><br/>
And Franken's mouth is so large, he can cram his entire fist into it.
<br/>

<br/><br/><strong>Washington Whispers</strong>
<br/><br/>

Franken loves to tell the story about challenging future-President Ronald Reagan with a question about decriminalizing marijuana.  (In 2004 Bill Clinton, at a book signing, <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2004-06-21-clinton-book-party_x.htm">greeted</A> Franken by saying "My hero's here.") Franken recaps the incident in his book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0440508649?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0440508649">Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot</A>.  But in 1999, for his <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385334540?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0385334540">second book</A>, Franken described making a (fictitious) run for a seat 
in Washington &mdash; the Presidency &mdash; just 10 years before his actual swearing in as a 
Senator.
<br/><br/>
"As you know, I have not been elected president," Franken explains patiently to the Supreme Court's Chief Justice, William Rehnquist, in a fake letter
which opens <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385334540?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0385334540">Why Not Me</A>, adding "and I have no plans to run for office &mdash; local, regional, or national." (Franken then asks Rehnquist if he'd appear on 
the book's cover...and if he'd travel to New York for the photo shoot &mdash; by train, during off-peak hours, to reduce Franken's expenses.)<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
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<br/><br/>

And the book also includes a campaign speech where Franken promises no major scandals during his administration. But "I'm not saying there will be no scandals whatsoever.  No candidate can honestly make that pledge." <br/><br/>Unfortunately, his fictitious administration unravels after the release of an all-too-honest campaign diary.  ("May 6... Splurged on hooker.")
<br/><br/>
The book's election might've gone differently if voters had paid more attention to Franken's campaign biography, <em>The Courage to Dare</em>, which chronicled
his experience with entrepreneurial success in college:  founding the Fabulous Freaky Freakout Company, along with its subsidiary, the Smoking Doobie Banana Brothers, Ltd. 
<br/><br/><br/>
<strong>I Fought the Law</strong>
<br/><br/>
It was the strangest omen of all, when the media and political worlds began merging right before America's eyes.
<br/><br/>
<center><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000291Q3E?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000291Q3E"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Al Franken vs TV cop.jpg" border=0></A></center>
<br/>

In 1998, Franken starred in a short-lived NBC sitcom called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000291Q3E?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000291Q3E">LateLine</A>. But now real politicians were drawn into Franken's bizarre TV world, and its 19 episodes included <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137314/epcast">cameos</A> by three U.S. Senators &mdash; Paul Simon, John Kerry, and Alan Simpson &mdash; 
while the show's fake Senator, "Crowl Pickens", was played by <em>Saturday Night Live</em>'s Dana Carvey.<br/><br/>
Just eight years later, Franken announced his own candidacy for the U.S. Senate &mdash; and he's now working <em>with</eM> John Kerry.
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<br/><br/>
The studio's atmosphere was surreal. "Next door was <em>Sesame Street</em>," one of the directors <a href="http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2009/02/lateline.html
">remembers</A> on his blog, "and it was not uncommon to see guys walking down the hall with Muppets on one hand and cigarettes in the other." But the puppets would also share the hall with other misplaced guests from Washington, including Congressmen Dick Gephardt and Pat Schroeder. <br/><br/>There were visits from former presidential candidate Michael Dukakis, plus one-time Clinton administration officials like Joycelyn Elders and Robert Reich. The Muppets might also spot real-life political pundits like John McLaughlin, Pat Buchanan, and William F. Buckley.  And the show even had parts for Allison Janney and Martin Sheen &mdash; the future stars of <em>The West Wing</em>. <br/><br/>
Franken's show would mock journalists &mdash; he played a late-night TV correspondent &mdash; but ironically, in this episode, the future lawmaker would get pulled over by a cop.
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And his night's about to get a lot worse....
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<strong>Monday Night Live</strong>
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"I take this oath very seriously," Franken <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQJhoioNQXI">said</A> last week from the Senate Judiciary Committee, as he prepared to question <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor">Sonia Sotomayor</A> over her nomination to the Supreme Court. "I may not be a lawyer, but neither are the overwhelming majority of Americans. Yet all of us, regardless of our backgrounds and professions, have a huge stake in who sits on the Supreme Court."<br/><br/>But while he'd later ask many questions &mdash; about privacy, internet access, and the right to an abortion &mdash; Franken's long strange trip came full circle when he'd eventually grill the future Justice over a TV-related question.
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What was the one case that <em>Perry Mason</em> lost?
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"Like you, I watched it all of the time," Sonia Sotomayor admitted, though she was unable to cite the fictitious case's title.
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"Our whole family watched it," Franken remembers warmly, in one last nod to his television past. "And because there was no internet at the time, you and I were watching it at the same time."
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"Is the Senator from Minnesota...going to tell us which episode that was?" demands Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy, giving Franken a chance to make one last oddball joke before launching his six-year term.
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"I don't know!" Franken replies. <br/><br/>"That's why I was asking!"
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<strong>See Also:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/06/10/the-great-wired-drug-non-controversy/">The Great Wired Drug Non-Controversy</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/03/29/maps-drugs-research-ru-sirius/">Prescription Ecstasy and Other Pipe Dreams</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/10/31/lost-horrors-ending-found-on-youtube/">Lost 'Horrors' Ending Found on YouTube</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/02/20/5-freaky-muppet-videos/">Five Freaky Muppet Videos</A>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Transhumanist Salvation or Judgment Day?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lou Cabron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happens when humans can really merge with robots, and there's real nanotechnology? R.U. Sirius confronts the ultimate question: will technology save humankind &#8212; or destroy it?
<strong>By&#160;Lou&#160;Cabron</strong><br/>]]></description>
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<strong>We're starting to brush up against</strong> real robots, real nanotech, and maybe even the first real artificial intelligence. But will emerging technologies destroy humankind &mdash; or will humankind be saved by an emerging transhumanism?
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And which answer is more liberating?
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If anybody knows, it's R.U. Sirius. The former editor in chief at <em>Mondo 2000</em> (and a Timothy Leary expert) has teamed up with "Better Humans LLC." They're producing <a href="http://www.hplusmagazine.com/digitaledition/2009-summer/">a new transhumanist magazine</A> called <em>h+</em>. (And R.U. is also one of the head monkeys at <em>10 Zen Monkeys</em>.) But can he answer this ultimate question?  <em>
Terminator Salvation</em> played with questions about where technology ends and humanity begins. 
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But what will we do when we're confronting the same questions in 
real life?

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<strong>10 Zen Monkeys:</strong>  Isn't this whole idea of real transhumanism kind of scary?
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<strong>RU SIRIUS:  </strong>Everything's scary.  Human beings weren't born to be wild so much as we were born to be scared, starting on a savanna in Africa as hunter-gatherers watching out for lions and tigers and bears (oh my...  Okay, maybe just lions), subjected to the random cruelties of a Darwinian planet.  I would say that the transhumanist project is probably an attempt to use human ingenuity to make living in this situation as not scary as possible, and in some theories, to actually change the situation, to create a post-Darwinian era.  <br/><br/>
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<div class="breakhead">See Also</div>
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&raquo; <a href="http://hplusmagazine.com/digitaledition/2009-summer/">Read <em>h+</em> magazine online</A><br/>
&raquo; <a href="http://cp.revolio.com/issue/393">Read the first issue</A><br/>
&raquo; <a href="http://hplusmagazine.com/magazine/2009/spring-2009">"Is the Future Cancelled?"</A><br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://hplusmagazine.com/magazine/2009/spring-2009">Spring 2009 Edition</A><br/>
&raquo; <a href="http://www.hplusmagazine.com">HPlus Magazine's main site</A><br/>
&raquo; <a href="http://hplusmagazine.com/editors-blog">R.U. Sirius's editor's blog</A><br/>

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Of course, that &mdash; in itself &mdash; is scary.  Our favorite narratives &mdash; our favorite movies and stories and comics tend to involve humans being altered by our own technologies to dramatically bad ends.  Most of those stories are silly in the particular, but the broader fear of unintended consequences or the use of advanced technologies by intentionally destructive people isn't silly.  
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For instance, we explored the very rapid development of robotic technologies for warfare during the web site's <a href="http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/ai/poll-terminator-scenario-possible">Terminator Week.</A> That's viscerally scary. Logically it can also mean less civilian casualties, less harm to soldiers, and so on. And on the other hand, it can also mean less hesitation to use violence against others, or a possibly objectionable system of total control in which revolution is permanently rendered impossible.  And on the other hand... I can do the "on the one hand and on the other hand" until the Singularity or at least until the Mayan apocalypse of 2012.
<br/><br/>
But seriously, what really scares the crap out of me is that we might <em>not</em> make radical technological problem-solving breakthroughs &mdash; that we might stop, or that the technologies might fall short of their promises.  What scares me is the idea of a 6 billion-strong species finding itself with diminishing hopes, resource scarcities, insoluble deadly pandemics, and global depression based on the delusions of abstract capital flow resulting in increases in violence and suffering and territoriality and xenophobia.
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong> But how does transhumanism resolve these problems?  How does a bunch of rich people living longer solve any of this?
<br/><br/>
<strong>RU:</strong>  Let's take this one at a time.  The technological paradigm that has grown out of transhumanist or radical technological progressive circles that I'm most fond of is NBIC. Nano-Bio-Info-Cogno.   The promise of nanotechnology &mdash; which has become much more tangible just in the last few months (thanks to <a href="http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/nano/how-close-are-we-real-nanotechnol
ogy">developments we recently covered on our site</A>) &mdash; is basic control over the structure of matter.  This should eventually solve most of our scarcity problems, with the possible exception of physical space. (And there are ways we might deal with that, but I'm trying to keep it short.) 
<br/><br/>
Nanotechnology, of course, has enormous potentials in terms of health as does biotechnology. People can find these details just about anywhere so I won't go into it. Anyway, sickness is perhaps our greatest source of misery and our greatest resource sink...  particularly if you contrast sickness not just with the absence of disease but with the possibilities of maintaining a high level of vitality. 
<br/><br/>
Then... information technology allows us to organize the data for distributed problem solving and &mdash; to a great degree &mdash; democratizes it.  (More eyes and more brains on the problem, working with and through more intelligent machines.)  IT is at the heart of all the breakthroughs and potential breakthroughs in nano and bio &mdash; and all this is leaving aside the further out projections of hyper-intelligent AIs.  
<br/><br/>
You know, getting back to what's scary, I agree with Vernor Vinge that <a href="http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/ai/poll-terminator-scenario-possible">the greatest existential threat is still nuclear warfare</A>.  But next in line is the possibility of a major plague...  a rapidly spreading pandemic.  And already we can see that the tools for dealing with that come down to intelligent systems and biotech.  There's biotech medical solutions using intelligent systems married to global mapping and communications and organized distribution.  Human behavior has a role too, of course... but not as much as romantics might wish.   
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Which perhaps brings us to cogno &mdash;  getting control and better use out of the brain for greater intelligence, greater happiness, less misery... hell, maybe even cheaper thrills! Why not?   A lot of our problems are self-created...  or they're created by particularly unstable or irrational people.  As a veteran of the psychedelic culture, the potentials and problems of cognition are a particular area of fascination for me &mdash; and also as a nonconformist who is suspicious of the tendency of society to be hostile towards what we might call creative madness.  So I do have some ambiguities, but it's just a huge area of intrigue as far as I'm concerned. 
<br/><br/>
Now, all of this is just the prosaic stuff, without imagining Singularities, or say hyperintelligent humans who aren't needy...  happily living on converted urine and nutrient pills while entertaining one and other in ever-complexifying virtual spaces.  Lots of energy savings there, Bubb. 
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<strong>10Z:</strong> President Obama is reconstituting his bio-ethics panel. Just how high are the stakes, in the here and now, regarding U.S. political policy governing future research?
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<strong>RU:</strong>  You know, I think the bioconservatives who dominated Bush's bio-ethics panel and opposed stem cell research were just pissing in the wind...  but that stuff can hit you in the face.   Really though, I think that the discourse in opposition to embryonic stem cells will some day be seen as every bit as absurd as Monty Python's "every sperm is sacred."  
<br/><br/>
More broadly, I don't think the stakes are very high because I don't think you can get the federal government today to be terribly functional... and I'm not a knee-jerk anti-government guy at the level of economics or investment in research.  I just think there's a certain all-American "can't do" thing going on there and there's no effective strategy for changing it.
<br/><br/>
Sometimes I think that the people who really control America &mdash; the corporate oligarchs and finance kleptocrats, the national security apparatus and so forth &mdash; realize that the Titanic has already hit the iceberg. And laughing up their sleeves they said, "Quick! Put that charismatic black guy behind the wheel!"
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong> I'm surprised to hear that you're not a knee-jerk anti-government sort of guy.  I read that you were an anarchist.
<br/><br/>
<strong>RU:</strong> I've read that too.  I have an anarchistic streak, but I can't even begin to believe in it.  I do think that being an anarchist is an excellent choice though, because it's never going to be tried by any large group on a highly populated planet with advanced technology. So you never have to witness or experience the consequences of your belief system being enacted.  It will remain forever romantic.
<br/><br/>
On the whole, though...  I should try to be diplomatic.  Let's just say that anarchists and pure libertarians are the most anti-authoritarian, and I like to be anti-authoritarian. It would be more convenient and more consistent to believe, but I don't think ideologies work in the real world.
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<strong>10Z:</strong> Let's get back to those ambiguities you mentioned.  That seems like a rare trait in the community represented by <em>h+</em> magazine.
<br/><br/>
<strong>RU:</strong> Hardly. But I'm probably more richly ambiguous than most other human beings.  My only ideology is uncertainty.  Although you'll see it if you explore transhumanist-oriented discussion groups and blogs like Michael Anissimov's <a href="http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/">Accelerating Future</A> or the writings of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0974347221?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0974347221">Nick Bostrom</A> ad infinitum. They're rife with complexity and argumentation, and concern about existential threats, inequalities in the distribution of positive results from scientific achievement, and on and on.  The reality is there's a rich and varied discourse within the techno-progressive movement just as there is between the progressives and the bio-conservatives. 
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<strong>10Z:</strong> It's hard to see where longevity and immortality fits into your vision of social responsibility.
<br/><br/>
<strong>RU:</strong>  First of all, I emphasized problem solving to respond to your question about fear.  And in essence my answer was I'm more afraid of standing still or going backwards than I am of moving forward.  But man... and woman... cannot live by social responsibility alone.  (We don't go around now asking people to die so we can spare resources or whatever.)
<br/><br/>
And I think that our humor columnist Joe Quirk had <a href="http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/humor/meaning-life-lies-its-suckiness">the best response</A> to people who are against hyper-longevity...  holy crap! These people want me to die!  
<br/><br/>
Can we allow people to be the owners and operators of their own experiences and decide for themselves how to answer the Shakespearian question &mdash; to be or not to be?  I think it's doable.  There's a very substantive <a href="http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/forever-young/distribution-post-humanity">discussion from Ramez Naam</A> in our first issue about why hyper-longevity should not create big resource problems. It has to do with demographics and the tendencies of educated, comfortable people to make less kids, and a fairly high percentage of inevitable deaths even if we cure aging and most illnesses.  
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<strong>10Z:</strong> But won't this exacerbate already extreme class distinctions?  Won't we have a wealthy race of immortals and then everybody else?
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<strong>RU:</strong>  That's plausible, but very unlikely.  And it always surprises me that that's the first thing you usually hear, since a great portion of the human species already has access to universal health care.  Even left to the market, the investment that's being made in this should eventually lead to a need to sell to a large consumer market.  In our first issue, we have <a href="http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/economy/science-fiction-gets-funding">a chart that shows billionaires</A> who are investing in revolutionary science projects... and a few of them are investing in longevity.  Well, they're going to want to take their product to market and get a big consumer share.  John Sperling isn't going to be sitting in some mountain retreat rubbing his hands together and saying, "Foolish mortals, I shall use this only for myself and my beautiful blonde cyborg bride Britney!"  That's the movie version, not the reality.  
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The reality is actually sort of comical &mdash; the wealthy are the early adapters of new technologies, but those new technologies usually don't work very well at first...  they tend to fuck up.  Now, I think you can imagine <em>that</em> as  a potential movie that can satisfy everybody's need for schadenfreude. 
<br/><br/>
<strong>10Z:</strong> Francis Fukuyama wrote some <a href="http://www.mywire.com/a/ForeignPolicy/Worlds-Most-Dangerous-Ideas/564801?page=4">critiques</A> of the transhumanist vision. In one essay he writes: "Modifying any one of our key characteristics inevitably entails modifying a complex, interlinked package of traits, and we will never be able to anticipate the ultimate outcome." How would you respond?
<br/><br/>
<strong>RU:</strong>  This gets us to the cover story on <a href="http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/bio/great-designer-baby-controversy-%E2%80%9909">so-called designer babies</A> in the current Summer Edition of <em>h+</em> magazine. There's hugely intriguing and potentially controversial issues about enhancement in this edition. And that's not only around parents pre-selecting traits for their children, but there's also a portrait of Andy Miah in the issue.  He's a British professor who &mdash; for all intents and purposes &mdash; is pro-sports doping.
<br/><br/>
Before I go into this, I want to take a bit of a detour.  When I wake up in the morning and start working on <em>h+</em>, I'm not thinking "How can I spread propaganda for the glories of transhumanism?" or anything like that.  I'm thinking: "How can I do a totally cool-ass website and magazine with the transhumanist idea and sensibility at the center of it."  That's my charge, and I'm approaching it as a craftsman.  So I'm looking at this first as a magazine writer and editor &mdash; I want it to be accessible, exciting and fun, and I want it to look great.  I want it to ride along the boundary between being a pro-transhumanist magazine and being more of a balanced and very hip generalist geek culture magazine.  That, for me, is the sweet spot in this, and I think, along with other contributors, we've pretty much nailed it.   
<br/><br/>
So I'm first of all an editor and writer.  And secondly, I'm a curious editor and writer. This isn't necessarily all good or all bad. It's interesting. And that's how I'd hope and expect most readers would approach it. 
<br/><br/>
And there's one more thing coming in a very distant third.  In the context of an overarching commitment to my philosophy of uncertainty &mdash; or meta-agnosticism &mdash; I'm an advocate of the radical technological vision.  I've thought long and hard about politics &mdash; and about consciousness unassisted by radical technology &mdash; and I've concluded that radical technology is the only bet that has a chance of winning not just a sufferable but a generally positive and enjoyable human future.  But I'm not a stoical defender of the cause or anything like that.  
<br/><br/>
So what Fukuyama proposes is interesting &mdash; that altering a few alleles to create some characteristics could iterate into monstrous or unhappy consequences further down the road.  And I think that the general consensus among geneticists is that this is very unlikely with the small kinds of changes that are being discussed now (for example, selections of eye and hair color).  Beyond that point, I say... let the arguments rage on!  One of the assumptions among advocates is that by the time we're able to make significant incursions into germ line engineering (to affect people's intelligence or make them more or less aggressive or sexier or whatever), we'll have significantly advanced measurement and predictive tools...plus, a really good understanding of what we're doing.  
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And there's another argument: we change stuff all the time in the "natural" evolution of human beings &mdash; and we reap both positive and negative consequences. But generally we gain more than we lose by proceeding with technological advances.  There's this idea called the "proactionary principle" which came from Max More, one of the originators of transhumanism.  He basically argues that we measure the potential negative consequences of a technology, but we also need to measure the negative consequences of not developing a technology.  What do we lose by its absence?
<br/><br/>
Anyway, I sort of want to punt &mdash; in the specific &mdash; on the issue around choosing traits for babies.  I prefer to acknowledge that it's a controversial area, but I'm excited to present the articles that are favorable towards these activities and hope they generate lots of interest and discussion.
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<strong>10Z:</strong> Before I let you go, let me ask you about the politics of <em>h+</em> magazine and the transhumanist movement.  Ronald Bailey, who writes for the libertarian magazine Reason, criticized another transhumanist &mdash; James Hughes &mdash; who apparently advocates democratic socialism.  Where do you come down on all this, and what are the politics of <em>h+</em>?
<br/><br/>
<strong>RU:</strong>  First of all, the magazine has no explicit politics.  Having said that, I think we have an implicit politic that both Ron Bailey and James Hughes agree with. It's the idea that human beings have a right to a high degree of autonomy over their minds and bodies, and that the trend towards transhuman technologies makes those rights all the more important and poignant. So human beings would have the right not just to choose their sexual preferences, or to control their birth processes, or as consenting adults to take whatever substances they like, or to eat what they like. We would also have the right to control and change our biologies, to self-enhance, to alter our bodies through surgery and on and on.  So let me be oh-so-diplomatic, by emphasizing our points of agreement.
<br/><br/>
I'll give a bit of my own perspective in terms of the great late second millennium debate that puts an unfettered market at one end of the spectrum and communism at the other end of the spectrum; that puts competition on one end of the spectrum and cooperation at the other end; that puts decentralization at one of the spectrum and centralization on the other end of the spectrum. I'd have to say I'm horribly centrist.  I'm dead center.  It's not a mainstream centrism, but without going into a long explication, I'm almost embarrassingly moderate. 
<br/><br/>
But while I think these arguments are still lively and vital today &mdash; and I have my own cheers and jeers over each day's political issues &mdash; from a near-futurist transhumanist perspective, the debate seems really tired.  For about a decade I've been arguing that the future I see emerging is witnessed by the open source culture, Wikipedia, and file sharing. And in another decade or two the dominant economic mode will not be the market or socialism or the mixed economy that we actually have pretty much everywhere &mdash; it will be voluntary collaboration. And yes, that's kind of an anarchist view...  but I'm saying it will become the dominant mode, not the only mode. (The market and the state will continue to be factors.) I hear Kevin Kelly <a href="http://www.wired.com/culture/culturereviews/magazine/17-06/nep_newsocialism?currentPage=all">just figured this out.</A> :)...  although his use of loaded words like socialism and collectivism are somewhat unfortunate.
<br/><br/>
People sometimes wonder how wealth will get distributed in a future economy that will likely require close to 0% human participation and that still presumably requires people to hustle themselves up some proof of value.  But I think there's a good chance that an advanced "file-sharing" culture hooked up to advanced production nanotechnology will render the question moot. 
<br/><br/>
Free lunch for everybody!
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<strong>See Also:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://hplusmagazine.com/digitaledition/2009-summer/">Latest issue of <em>h+</em> magazine</A><br/>
<a href="http://cp.revolio.com/issue/393">Read the first issue</A><br/>
<a href="http://hplusmagazine.com/editors-blog/foolish-meatstack-terminator-week-continues-register-reacts-darpa-plans">R.U. Sirius on "Terminator/Robot Week"</A><br/>
<a href="http://hplusmagazine.com/magazine/2009/spring-2009">"Is the Future Cancelled?" Spring 2009 Edition</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.hplusmagazine.com">HPlus Magazine's main site</A><br/>
<a href="http://hplusmagazine.com/editors-blog">R.U. Sirius's editor's blog</A><br/>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>&#8216;How I Sued a Craigslist Sex Troll&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 07:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lou Cabron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After answering a personal ad, he'd discovered Jason Fortuny published his sexy picture on the web. In his first interview, 'John Doe' describes his legal revenge. <strong>By Lou Cabron</strong><br/>]]></description>
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<strong>It been nearly three years,</strong> but one victim has finally successfully sued an infamous Craigslist prankster who published the private emails received in response to a fake sex ad.
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Now for the first time, the court's "John Doe" has agreed to tell his own side of the story. 

"The message is in the fact that a lawsuit is indeed possible based on privacy issues,"
says the victim, "and those considering similar behavior as Fortuny are advised to consider that fact." <br/><br/>In September of 2006, Jason Fortuny posted a personal ad on Craigslist pretending to be a woman seeking kinky sex &mdash; and then published sexy pictures and complete emails he received, including any names and phone numbers, from over 150 men. "[T]he chorus of blog posts saying 'someone ought to sue him' gave me some satisfaction to being able to do just that," says Doe, "on behalf of those who wished for justice in this matter."
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"IT IS HEREBY ORDERED AND ADJUDGED," wrote Judge Joan B. Gottschall 30 months later 
&mdash; handing down $74,252.56 in legal fines to Fortuny. Three law firm associates had spent 129.2 hours (at $175 per hour) litigating his 2006 Craigslist prank, plus another 35 hours by the main attorney billed at $275 per hour. As part of the judge's award, Fortuny will have to pay all their legal fees &mdash; a total of $32,365.50 &mdash; and he'll even end up paying the extra costs accrued because he avoided their process servers.
<br/><br/>
"I hope that it demonstrates that claims (and attorneys) do exist that enable victims to pursue those who commit wrongful acts," says the victim's lawyer, Charles Mudd.  
<br/><br/>
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<img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/fortuny-head.jpg" hspace=10 vspace=5>
<center><font size=2><I>Jason Fortuny</i></font></center></div>
"Whenever I questioned 'why bother doing this', I just re-read the posts
where Fortuny was taunting the victims who begged him to remove their
information," says victim John Doe, "and that renewed my resolve."
In the end, Fortuny's stubbornness is what led them to court. 
"He publicly demonstrated his unwillingness to negotiate with others,
so I knew that only a hardball response would be effective and that direct
contact with him would be a waste of time and tip him off to my plans."

<br/><br/>


Ironically, Fortuny was only fined $5,000 for "public disclosure of private facts" and "intrusion upon seclusion." The remaining bulk of the award &mdash; $35,001 &mdash; was for violating the plaintiff's copyright. "The Copyright Act provides for statutory damages from $750 to $35,000 per infringed work," says Mudd, but those damages "can exceed $35,000 up to an amount of $150,000 per infringed work where the conduct was willful." This means that ultimately, it was Fortuny's own "willful" conduct that increased the price he'd eventually have to pay, Mudd argues. "In general, Mr. Fortuny could have limited the amount of damages under the Copyright Act and could have significantly reduced the amount of attorney's fees throughout the course of this matter.  
<br/><br/>
"He chose not to do so."
<br/><br/>
<br/>
<strong>Judgment Day</strong>
<br/><br/>
Fortuny initially argued that the suit against him was "abusing the intent of copyright law, stretching the common law terms of privacy, using unverified e-mail as alternative process, and side stepping personal jurisdiction." Last summer Fortuny wrote <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/jason-fortuny-responds-to-lawsuit/">an eight-page letter informing the judge</A> that "I do not have the resources for legal proceedings in another state, much less the exorbitant attorney fees for a Federal copyright case." 
But John Doe's lawyer points out that Fortuny didn't have to appear in person, and 
seemed genuinely surprised by the lackluster fight that Fortuny put up. 
<br/><br/>
Judge Gottschall rejected Fortuny's only other response &mdash; a "motion to dismiss" &mdash;
writing that "It appears that the defendant filed the documents in the wrong courthouse." (The court's rules also required a "notice of service" which Fortuny failed to provide.) By the time Fortuny's motion reached the right court, Judge Gottschall had already entered a default judgment against him. "My firm and the Plaintiff provided Fortuny every opportunity to vacate the default," says attorney Mudd, but after several months with no response, the case had moved forward.
<br/><br/>
"The foregoing being said, I would have welcomed the opportunity to address
the claims on the merits."




<br/><br/>
Fortuny's victim acknowledges that  "The judge's verdict was just a formality based on the rules.
Fortuny lost this on procedural grounds." But there's still a lesson in his legal experience...<br/><br/>
Fortuny's prank became a symbol for unapologetic online "griefing," and last August, the <em>New York Times</em> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=1&#038;fta=y&#038;pagewanted=all
">wrote</A> Fortuny "might be the closest thing this movement of anonymous provocateurs has to a spokesman." Fortuny told the <em>Times</em> he knew two victims had lost their jobs over his prank.  "Am I the bad guy?" Fortuny asked rhetorically in the interview. "Am I the big horrible person who shattered someone’s life with some information? No! This is life. Welcome to life. Everyone goes through it. I’ve been through <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/09/12/the-secret-life-of-jason-fortuny/">horrible stuff,</A> too."<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
<center>
<a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattle911/archives/145431.asp"><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/KOMO%20reports%20on%20Jason%20Fortuny%27s%20Craigslist%20sex%20prank.jpg" border=0></A>
<br/>
<em>A Seattle newscast <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattle911/archives/145431.asp">
reported</A> one man responded with a picture<br/>exposing himself in his cubicle where he worked &mdash; Microsoft &mdash; <br/>adding "That man got fired."</em>
</center>
<br/><br/>
But John Doe was determined to fight back.
<br/><br/><br/>
<strong>The Victim's Story</strong>

<br/><br/>
On that day in 2006, Doe was alerted to his sexy picture being published online &mdash; first via an anonymous tip-off, and then helpful pointers from two of his
friends, according to documents filed in the case.  He'd quickly deleted his photo from the Wiki-like page at Encyclopedia Dramatica &mdash; only to see it re-appearing there later (and with future deletions disabled). "Through legal counsel, Plaintiff requested that Encyclopedia Dramatica remove Plaintiff's Private Response, Copyrighted Photograph and personal email address from the
Fortuny Experiment," reads the case filing.
<br/><br/>
It adds that Encyclopedia Dramatica complied with Plaintiff's request, but then Jason Fortuny himself grabbed the picture, and re-published it on his own site.  It was then that the angry victim sent Fortuny a DMCA notice, arguing that the photograph was copyrighted. 
<br/><br/>


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<div class="breakhead">More About Jason Fortuny</div>
<div class="breakcontent">

&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/05/07/20-funniest-reactions-to-the-jason-fortuny-verdict/">20 Funniest Reactions</A><br />
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/jason-fortuny-responds-to-lawsuit/">
Fortuny's Legal Defense</A><br />
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/09/23/jason-fortuny-speaks">Jason Fortuny Speaks</A><br />
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/09/12/the-secret-life-of-jason-fortuny/">The Secret Life of Jason Fortuny</A><br />
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/10/18/good-griefers-fortuny-v-crook/">Good Griefers: Fortuny v. Crook</A><br />
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/09/18/in-the-company-of-jerkoffs/">In the Company of Jerkoffs</A> </div>
</div>"I initially sought to protect my privacy and leave it at that," Doe told us this week. "Fortuny opposed my actions to remove my personal information, and so I was left with no choice but to take additional legal action against him."
<br/><br/>
One internet rumor says the plaintiff must've luckily had a friend who was a lawyer,
but that's not true, says Doe's attorney. "Neither I nor anyone at my firm knew of or communicated with the Plaintiff prior to the Craigslist Experiment." But he adds that "The case was well researched and on solid legal footing, and we had every reason to expect a favorable ruling on merit."

<br/><br/>



Fortuny's prank may have struck 149 other victims, but John Doe was different. "I had the personal resources and was at liberty to risk additional publicity," Doe says, "unlike apparently all the other victims. Fortuny miscalculated in that regard as he assumed no one could either afford the legal costs nor take the personal risk to oppose him. 
<br/><br/>
"This was a miscalculation that was perhaps not clear to him until a long time after I began the process."
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Doe's photo was removed &mdash; temporarily &mdash; but by the end of the month, the photo was back on Fortuny's site yet again, along with the text of the original sexy email message.  
Fortuny had filed a counter-notification disputing the copyrighted
status of the photo.  "The counter notification basically says 'you're a liar liar pants on fire'," Fortuny explained on his blog, "and adds that if you don't respond within 14 days, I get to put my
shit back up."
<br/><br/>
The incident occurred back in September of 2006, and the first summons to Fortuny was issued 
18 months later &mdash; over a year ago, in February of 2008. "For personal reasons I let some time pass before pulling the trigger on the lawsuit," the victim says, and even then it took more than four months before the executed summons was finally returned. "We had advised Fortuny that we reserved the right to take this up again at our convenience, and I suppose he mistook that for a bluff."

The lawsuit acknowledged that after nearly two years, the photo and
email were <em>still</em> displayed on Fortuny's site. <br/><br/>And to this day, <a href="http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/RFJason_Craigslist_Experiment#The_Experiment">nearly 100 of the original photos</A>, remain online at Encyclopedia Dramatica. (Caution: link is not safe for work.)
<br/><br/>

This wasn't Fortuny's first brush with the courts. One of our readers contacted us with a list of Fortuny's other past legal skirmishes &mdash; including three municipal court citations for "no driver's license on person" in 1999, 2001, and 2002, as well as a 2004 citation for driving without proof of insurance. But looking at the judge's decision today, Doe sees a larger message. "Beyond the goal of protecting my own privacy, there was a broader 'civic' aspect to this case," he notes, "which was motivating for me and of particular note motivating for my attorney. Fortuny maliciously harmed a lot of people by his actions, and he made the point of bragging about how he was toying with the efforts of those who attempted to deal with him directly. 
<br/><br/>
"It was sad to watch this happen, and it furthered my resolve to act as the 'adult on the
playground' and respond to this bully on behalf of all his victims in spirit anyway."

<br/><br/>
But there's another lesson in the incident &mdash; and ironically, it comes from the Craigslist sex troll himself &mdash; via the lawyer who prosecuted the case against him. "I believe Fortuny himself sent the message for users of the Internet through the Craigslist Experiment &mdash; beware what you read online," says Charles Mudd, "and think several times before communicating personal information through electronic mail to anyone.
<br/><br/>
"Especially someone you have never met."
<br/><br/>
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</div><strong>See Also:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/05/07/20-funniest-reactions-to-the-jason-fortuny-verdict/">20 Funniest Reactions to the Fortuny Verdict</A><br />
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/jason-fortuny-responds-to-lawsuit/">
Jason Fortuny Responds to Lawsuit</A><br />
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/09/23/jason-fortuny-speaks">Jason Fortuny Speaks</A><br />
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/">Craigslist Sex Troll Gets Sued</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/09/12/the-secret-life-of-jason-fortuny/">The Secret Life of Jason Fortuny</A><br />
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/10/18/good-griefers-fortuny-v-crook/">Good Griefers: Fortuny v. Crook</A><br />
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/09/18/in-the-company-of-jerkoffs/">In the Company of Jerkoffs</A> 
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		<title>20 Funniest Reactions to the Jason Fortuny Verdict</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 07:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lou Cabron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A judge orders a Craigslist sex troll to pay $74,252.56 in fines. Is it the internet's turn to get some Lulz? <strong>By Lou Cabron</strong></A><br/>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Jason%20Fortuny.jpg"><br/><br/>His blog at RFJason.com disappeared, and one anonymous Livejournal comment <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/2131090.html?thread=300994706#t300994706">claims</A> that "he hasn't made contact with anyone for weeks. Even his accomplices don't know what's going on." (Though his <a href="http://rfjason.livejournal.com/">personal blog</A>  at LiveJournal is still up &mdash; with its old tagline "Getting away with everything you can only dream of.")<br/><br/>

But now that a judge ordered Jason Fortuny to pay $74,252.56 in various legal fines &mdash;what's the internet's final verdict? Was Fortuny's Craigslist prank instructive, malicious &mdash; or a little bit of both?
<br/><br/>
Here's the 20 funniest reactions.

<br/>
<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>
<br/><br/>
"Why do I hear Aretha singing 'Dancin in the streets'? ;-) Honestly this should be declared an international holiday or something."
<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; Livejournal blogger <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/we_love_nebris/30838.html?thread=96374#t96374">Mrs-Ralph</A>


<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"trolls are getting sued now? what is the world coming to"

<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; 
<a href="http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/2131090.html?thread=300946066#t300946066">Livejournal user Kassichu </A>

<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"This is what happens when you don't put out like you imply you will."

<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/2131090.html?thread=300973202#t300973202">Livejournal user Demure</A>

<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"I love when reality collides with LiveJournal. It's like a super nova exploding."

<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/2131090.html?thread=301010834#t301010834">Livejournal user Katastrophic</A>

<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"Don't worry about lawsuits. They won't happen."
<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/10/18/good-griefers-fortuny-v-crook/">Jason Fortuny, October, 2006</A>

	<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"If he was a TRULY great troll, he would have done it all anonymously. As it is, 
he's pretty much in the same position as those dudes who sent him pics...
...consequences got back to him. That's life."<br/><br/>

       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/ask_me_anything/20057391.html?thread=404700719#t404700719">Livejournal user Yhanthlei</A>


<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>


"Well, it's not like the plaintiff won on the merits of the case, if that makes you feel better. He only won because the troll didn't show up to some meetings. Happens all the time in civil court."

<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/2131090.html?thread=300963218#t300963218">Livejournal user Nandexdame</A>

<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"A legal 'appearance' does not mean that Fortuny had to physically appear in
Court initially.  Rather, he had to properly file the appropriate documents
in the correct court.  <br/><br/>

"Mr. Fortuny failed to do so."
<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; Charles Mudd, the lawyer in the successful lawsuit



<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"If you are 13 or older you should expect naked explicit pictures of your ass to show up on the internet. this is 2009 America, after all."<br/><br/>

       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; A possibly-sarcastic commenter 
<a href="http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/04/18/remember-jason-fortuny">responding to Dan Savage</A>


<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"i'm going to send nude pics of myself to an anonymous ad on craigslist
what could possibly go wrong."



<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/2131090.html?thread=300954258#t300954258">Livejournal user Kassichu</A>


<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"It's like a stupidity contest, except the winner gets to pay ~$75k."

<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/2131090.html?thread=301306258#t301306258">Livejournal user Derumi</A>

<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"You don't have to feel sorry for him to recognize that the law is on his side here. Fortuny behaved wrongfully, and now he's suffering the consequences."

<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/2131090.html?thread=301234834#t301234834">Magicgospelman</A>

<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"Let's hug."

<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/2131090.html?thread=301007506#t301007506">Livejournal user Girlvinyl</A>


<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"The amount seems a high and random but really 'I did it for the lulz' shouldn't be a valid reason for fucking with someones life. I kind of wonder if there would have been a difference reaction if the guy had targeted a different group [than] male doms."

<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; 
<a href="http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/2131090.html?thread=300975506#t300975506">Livejournal user Muilti-factedg</A>

<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"I take it back. You might get sued if you do a Craigslist Experiment..." 
<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash;Jason Fortuny <a href="http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:DzLZqZdxchUJ:www.rfjason.com/category/craigslist+site:rfjason.com+don%27t+worry+about+lawsuits+they+won%27t+happen&#038;cd=1&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;gl=us&#038;client=firefox-a">on his blog last summer</A>


<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

1. Trolls being sued is ridiculous<br/>
2. That doesn't make this any less funny

<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/2131090.html?thread=300966034#t300966034">Livejournal user Layiliyal </A>
<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

"Contrary to what some people here want to believe, the Internet is not a lawless libertarian wonderland where you can do whatever the fuck you want without legal consequences. 
....If you do these things with the goal of fucking with people, you shouldn't be surprised when they fight back."




<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/sf_drama/2131090.html?thread=301199506#t301199506">Livejournal user Magicgospelman</A>
<br/><br/><br/><div style="color:#660000; text-style:bold; text-align:center">*</div><br/><br/>

	"Can you blame him?"<br/>
	"Not really."


<br/><br/>
       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&mdash; Jason Fortuny<br/> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/archives/145431.asp">responding to a TV news interviewer last summer.</A><br/><br/><br/><br/><div align="center"><!--adsense#IndieClick_468--></div>
<br/><br/>
<strong>See Also:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/05/07/how-i-sued-a-craigslist-sex-troll/">How I Sued a Craigslist Sex Troll</A><Br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/jason-fortuny-responds-to-lawsuit/">
Jason Fortuny Responds to Lawsuit</A><br />
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/09/23/jason-fortuny-speaks">Jason Fortuny Speaks</A><br />
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/04/craigslist-troll-gets-sued/">Craigslist Sex Troll Gets Sued</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/09/12/the-secret-life-of-jason-fortuny/">The Secret Life of Jason Fortuny</A><br />
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/10/18/good-griefers-fortuny-v-crook/">Good Griefers: Fortuny v. Crook</A><br />
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/09/18/in-the-company-of-jerkoffs/">In the Company of Jerkoffs</A> ]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Researcher Finds Bad Sex Information Online</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 04:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lou Cabron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A medical school instructor reviewed 34 health web sites &#8212; and discovered big mistakes in their information about birth control and sexually transmitted diseases. <strong>By Lou Cabron</strong><br/>]]></description>
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</div><strong>There's a problem with sexual information</strong> from the top medical web sites.
<br/><br/>
It's wrong.
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"Even widely trusted sites like WebMD are not that accurate when it comes to adolescent reproductive health," says Dr. Sophia Yen, a Stanford University 
Med School instructor in Adolescent Medicine. She conducted an online review last summer and concluded many of the web sites weren't just incomplete &mdash; they were often <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/05/06/top-six-inaccurate-sex-facts-on-the-web/">wrong, wrong, wrong</A>.
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&raquo;  <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/04/29/top-six-inaccurate-sex-facts-on-the-web">Top Six Inaccurate Sex Facts</A> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/04/29/top-six-inaccurate-sex-facts-on-the-web">on the web</A><br/>
&raquo;  <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/08/27/the-dc-madam-speaks/">The D.C. Madam Speaks</A><br/>
&raquo;  <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/07/06/sex-panic-an-interview-with-debbie-nathan/">Sex Panic! &mdash; an Interview with</A><br/>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/07/06/sex-panic-an-interview-with-debbie-nathan/">Debbie Nathan</A><br/>
&raquo;  <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/02/22/sex-expert-susie-bright-lets-it-all-out/">Sex Expert Susie Bright</A><br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/02/22/sex-expert-susie-bright-lets-it-all-out/">Lets It All Out</A><br/>
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</div>For example, weight gain isn't a side effect of birth control pills &mdash; but 60% of
the reviewed sites claimed that it was. (And three sites even claimed, incorrectly, that IUDs should only be used by women who had already had children.) In fact, 40% of the web sites actually <em>contradicted</em> the guidelines of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists on PAP exams, mistakenly recommending the tests every time women change sexual partners or as soon as they turn 18. "Extra Pap exams are an unnecessary stress and expense, and a barrier to getting birth control," Yen says &mdash; since some teenagers may postpone birth control if they mistakenly believe it will first require a Pap exam.
<br/><br/>
With undergraduate researcher Alisha Tolani, Yen <a href="http://www.lpch.org/pdf/clinical/adolescent-medicine/yenPosterWebsitesInfoTeens.pdf">reported</A> her results in March to the annual meeting of the Society for Adolescent Medicine, concluding that web sites "don't always incorporate changes to policy or to clinical recommendations that have occurred within the past five years." Between July and August, Yen's team performed a detailed assessment of the sexual health information online, a process she describes in an <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvuFiag5y-M">online video</A>.  "We did a Google search for phrases such as birth control, sexually transmitted diseases, emergency contraception, and IUDs, and looked at which web sites were the top 10 to 15 that came up on each of these topics." They cross-checked their list against Alexa's reports of U.S.-based traffic &mdash; but were still disappointed by the information they discovered. For example, "about half of the Web sites, including such highly trafficked destinations as Wikipedia and Mayoclinic.com, failed to provide accurate, complete information about emergency contraception," according to the study <a href="http://med.stanford.edu/news_releases/2009/april/teen-sex.html">announcement</A> by Stanford's School of Medicine. 
<br/><br/><center><!--adsense#IndieClick_468--></center><br/><br/>Emergency contraception has been available over-the-counter since 2006 for people over 18, but 29% of the web sites Yen checked failed to mention this fact. She discovered 16 of the 34 sites correctly stated this information, but then failed to mention that in <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/05/06/top-six-inaccurate-sex-facts-on-the-web#emergency-contraception-states">nine states</A> it's also available over-the-counter without any age restrictions. And Yen also faults 10 of the 34 sites for failing to correct a common misconception &mdash; that emergency contraception is identical to the RU-486 abortion pill.
<br/><br/>

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<center><font size=2><I>Stanford Researcher Sophia Yen</i></font></center></div>
And it's not just teenagers that misunderstand the information. Yen cites one study which determined that 45% of newspapers confused emergency contraception (which prevents pregnancy from occurring) with RU-486, a pill which triggers an abortion after pregnancy occurs. Possibly because of this, 31% of teenagers now wrongly believe that emergency contraception induces an abortion, according to studies cited by Yen &mdash; while another 35% of adolescents have never even <em>heard</em> of emergency contraception.
<br/><br/>
And Yen found that many web sites also failed to include the latest guidelines from the World Health Organization about Plan B emergency contraception. (The group recommends that the pills be taken as soon as possible after sex, adding that the latest they can be effective is five days after intercourse.)
<br/><br/>
Yen's interest stems from her work as a pediatrics instructor at Stanford's medical school, and as a specialist in adolescent medicine at the Lucille Packard Children's Hospital. In fact, the hospital's chief of adolescent medicine added a statement to the announcement. "Making the transition between childhood and adulthood can be tough on teenagers," said Neville Golden, MD, noting that
teenagers have many questions about sexual health. "That's why Dr. Yen's research is so important. 
<br/><br/>"She has demonstrated that there is a tremendous amount of misinformation on the Web."
<br/><br/>
But <i>do</i> adolescents get their sex information the web? Yes. Yen cites two studies by the PEW research center plus a 2003 survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation, which determined that approximately 25% of teens acquire "some or a lot" of their sexual health information from the internet.  
<br/><br/>
And though more than half of teenagers mistakenly thought they were immune to herpes if they were only kissing, this wasn't addressed by 69% of the web sites studied. (Only nine of 29 pages about STDs explained that herpes <em>could</em> be transmitted through kissing.) It's just one more example of ways health sites are failing their teenaged readers. "No studies have investigated the extent to which these myths exist and are perpetuated on the internet," Yen argues in her findings, adding that in the last five years, "several notable changes to policy and clinical recommendations have occurred." 

<br/><br/>
Yen recommends that teenagers see a physician who specializes in adolescent medicine, and seek web sites reviewed by similar specialists (like the web sites associated with academic medical centers).  She recommends 
<a href="http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu">Go Ask Alice</A>, a question-and-answer service from Columbia University, the <a href="http://www.youngwomenshealth.org">Center for Young Women's Health</A> by the Children's Hospital Boston, <a href="http://kidshealth.org/teen">TeensHealth</A> by KidsHealth.org, and Planned Parenthood's <a href="http://www.teenwire.com">Teen Wire</A>. 
And she also recommends the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743256115?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0743256115">Our Bodies, Ourselves</A>.
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Ultimately, she suggests web sites "should consider more frequent reviews by health practitioners to contain accurate information consistent with such changes." She also has some advice for doctors &mdash; "be aware of myths on 'reputable health websites' and actively debunk them in clinical settings." And finally, she has some advice for teenagers.
<br/><br/>
"Be cautious about finding sexual health answers on the Web." 
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<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/08/27/the-dc-madam-speaks/">The D.C. Madam Speaks</A><br/>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 04:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lou Cabron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Stanford researcher's list of which sexual health information most web sites will get wrong. <strong>By Lou Cabron</strong><br/>]]></description>
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<em>Dr. Sophia Yen, a Stanford University Medical School instructor, believes the following six medical facts about sex are the ones <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/05/06/researcher-finds-bad-sex-information-online/">most often overlooked or reported incorrectly</A> by medical sites on the web.</em><br/>
<a name="emergency-contraception-states"><br/></A>
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1. <u>Emergency Contraception is available over the counter.</u> <br/>In most states that's for women over the age of 18, but by early May of 2009, that age will drop to 17. And in nine states, it's already available without any age restrictions.
<br/><br/>
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Alaska<br/>
California<br/>
Hawaii<br/>
Maine<br/>
Massachusetts<br/>
New Hampshire<br/>
New Mexico<br/>
Vermont<br/>
Washington<br/>
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2.  <u>Emergency contraception doesn't cause an abortion.</u> <br/>It's not RU-486 &mdash; it's a way to prevent pregnancy from occurring.
<br/><br/>
3. <u>IUDS are safe for adolescents</u>
<br/><br/>
4.  <u>Birth control pills won't make you gain weight.</u> <br/>"You know, maybe one in a thousand may gain weight," says Dr. Yen, but in general the research shows people do not gain weight on birth control pills."
<br/><br/>
5.  <u>PAP smears aren't necessary until women turn 21.</u><br/>
Or until three years after women become sexually active. (Unless they're HIV-positive or 
have a suppressed immune system.)
<br/><br/>
6.  <u>Herpes <em>can</em> be transmitted by kissing.</u>
<br/><br/><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/05/06/researcher-finds-bad-sex-information-online/"><em>Click here for our article about the study</em></A>

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		<title>Will &#8216;The Hunt for Gollum&#8217; Satisfy True Fans?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 21:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Diehl</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the <em>Lord of the Rings</em> nerds are waiting at their computers, we take a wider look at the project. <b>By&#160;Jeff&#160;Diehl</b><br/>]]></description>
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<br/><br/>
<strong>Hardcore Lord of the Rings nerds</strong> will get <a href="http://thehuntforgollum.com/about.htm">a little somethin'-somethin'</A> on Sunday to help them through the Middle Earth drought until Jackson's production of <em>The Hobbit</em> is released. 
<br/><br/>
But let's be real. This internet-only production isn't a "fan film." Rather, it's a vehicle for a crew of young, talented Hollywood wannabes to break into the industry by showing their chops.
<br/><br/>
It's true, the flick could end up being as badly-written and poorly-acted as your average fan film, but it's not likely. And in any case, the production values completely deprive the audience the pleasure of audio-visual comic fail should it turn out to be otherwise unwatchable. The trailer proves that.
<br/><br/>
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<br/><br/>
There is further evidence that this is a professional endeavor, not an amateur one.
<br/><br/>
The lead actor who plays Aragorn, Adrien Webster (who claims to be a devout "fan," as do all of the <a href="http://www.thehuntforgollum.com/crew.htm">150 volunteer crew-members</a>) was pressed to provide some nerd credentials so that the audience didn't feel it was being exploited.
<br/><br/>
"I don’t think we’re exploiting anything," said Webster. "I'm actually Viggo Mortenson's evil twin."
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<br/><br/>
But, while we have no doubt that the guy makes a convincing Ranger, what could he offer in the way of story details from the LOTR appendices that the plot's allegedly drawn from &mdash; something to indicate a real depth of love for the mythology that would show he's anything more than a casual cinema-goer like so many "fans"? Not much. (He couldn't even give us a good nerd joke from on-set.) 
<br/><br/>
"I think it does follow more closely to the books in terms of timeline," Webster said. "The movie deals with Aragorn’s search for Gollum after Gandalf has charged him with this task.  It allows us to show more of Aragorn the Ranger."
<br/><br/>
Well, yeah, but we read that on the movie's website, dude.

<br/><br/>
From <a href="http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=interview_gollum_fan_film">an interview</a> with the film's writer-director, Chris Bouchard: 
<br/>


<blockquote>It's all written in the appendices of the books, where he tells of what Aragorn and Gollum got up to before the trilogy began. Last May I took elements from that story and didn't even have to fill in many gaps before I had a 25-page script. It worked like a short episode &mdash; an additional chapter of the Peter Jackson trilogy... Above all I was so inspired by Peter Jackson's trilogy. And jealous that he got to make it first! I loved the scale, the quality, the epic scope of it all and figured, hey, maybe we can do that too.</blockquote>

<br/>
The filmmakers do seem unaware that the chapter in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0618574948?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0618574948">Fellowship of the Ring</A> titled, "The Council of Elrond," includes Gandalf's report to the Council regarding Gollum &mdash; his capture, imprisonment, and escape from the elves of Mirkwood.
<br/><br/>
"Hunt" film editor Lewis Albrow claims in his bio on the <a href="http://www.thehuntforgollum.com/crew.htm">crew page</a> that he read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0618968636?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0618968636">The Hobbit</A> when he was seven and <em>LOTR</em> when he was 11, but then &mdash; what's this? &mdash; "he skipped past much of The Council of Elrond"! 
<br/><br/>
Gandalf's report on Gollum is omitted from <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X9FLKM?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000X9FLKM">Jackson's film adaptation.</A>
<br/><br/>
It's pretty clear that crafting a traditional, if low-budget, piece of cinema was the driving factor in making this film. This is supported by the fact that Bouchard's been occupying his time in recent years making independent, low-budget zombie movies, not learning Elvish or arguing online about whether Tolkien was a racist.
<br/><br/>
As for the legal status of the project, Bouchard <a href="http://thetorchonline.com/2009/04/27/will-the-hunt-for-gollum-fan-project-be-as-cool-as-it-looks/">has said</a> that he's been in contact with the Tolkien estate and that they were OK with it, though his movie's disclaimer says otherwise. (It <a href="http://www.thehuntforgollum.com/about.htm">warns</a> that The Hunt for Gollum "is in no way affiliated with, or sponsored or approved, by Tolkien Enterprises, the heirs or estate of J.R.R. Tolkien, Peter Jackson, New Line Cinema, HarperCollins Publishers Ltd. or any of their respective affiliates or licensees…") 
<br/><br/>
And while the overt visual mimicry of Jackson's films raises obvious questions about dilution of trademark and other legal vagueness surrounding fan fiction, it's also clear that, with such a non-profit, online-only film, the rights-holders have very few options. The film is finished and loaded into the chamber. Regardless of any legal victories by those who might want to stop the release of this thing, it only takes one anonymous finger to pull the trigger and fire it around the world in an instant.
<br/><br/>
"I'm just saying my prayers and eating my vitamins brother," actor Webster told us. "I haven’t been involved too much with the legal side of things."
<br/><br/>
Any publicity would only guarantee a larger audience. And a more general audience would likely be made up of folks who are even less able to distinguish between a New Line Cinema release and an "amateur" fansploitation effort.
<br/><br/>
How precious.
<br/><br/>
<strong>See Also:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/10/04/neil-gaiman-has-lost-his-clothes-2/">Neil Gaiman has Lost his Clothes</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/02/08/cory-doctorow-overclocked-ru-sirius-interview/">When Cory Doctorow Ruled the World</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/10/31/lost-horrors-ending-found-on-youtube/">Lost 'Horrors' Ending Found on YouTube</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/12/a-selection-of-obscure-robert-anton-wilson-essays/">A Selection of Obscure Robert Anton Wilson Essays</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/10/05/is-the-net-good-for-writers/">Is The Net Good for Writers</A><br/><br/><div align="center"><!--adsense#IndieClick_468--></div>

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		<title>Eight Druggiest Rock Star Stories</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RU Sirius</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which music legend has the craziest drug story? Ingest the wild answers from RU Sirius's new book,  <em>Everybody Must Get Stoned.</em> <strong>By&#160;RU&#160;Sirius</strong><br/>]]></description>
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<em>The following is an excerpt from <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0806530731?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0806530731">Everybody Must Get Stoned: Rock Stars on
Drugs.</A> The book was inspired by <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/03/paul-mccartney-on-drugs/">Paul McCartney on Drugs</A>, an article I wrote
for <em>10 Zen Monkeys</em> in January of 2007.  <br/><br/>In researching this particular
section, I relied heavily upon two great sources:  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802142648?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0802142648">Please Kill Me: The
Uncensored Oral History of Punk (An Evergreen book)</A> by Legs McNeil and
Gillian McCain and <a href="http://www.hightimes.com/">High Times magazine</A>.   Other major sources for the book included <a href="http://www.celebstoner.com/">Celebrity
Stoner</A> and a great book titled <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0688089615?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0688089615">Waiting For The Man: The
Story of Drugs and Popular Music</A> by Harry Shapiro.</em>
<BR/>



<br/><br/><br/>
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<br/><br/>

During the latter half of the twentieth century, rock stars were privileged with the opportunity to experience just about every imaginable thrill. They were young, they were aggressive, many of them were wealthy, they were in a culture where thumbing your nose at authority was the rule rather than the exception, and they were treated like sex gods by members of the opposite or desired gender. And, of course, there were plenty of drugs around to get crazy with. These are some of the twisted highlights or low-lights of rock star behavior related to drugs.
<br/><br/><br/>

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<strong>1.  Blood of the Stooges</strong>
<br/><br/>
<img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Iggy%20Pop%20likes%20heroin.jpg" width=210 align=left style="margin-right: 20px; margin-left: 0px">In 1969-1970, Iggy Pop and his seminal proto-punk band the Stooges lived together outside Detroit in a house they nicknamed "Fun House." (They also <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001167Y5Q?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B001167Y5Q">named an album</A> for it.) Besides writing and recording music, they were injecting massive amounts of drugs, mostly heroin. When setting up a hit, the Stooges would squirt the blood out of their syringes and shoot it all over the walls and ceilings. After a while, enough blood had accumulated on the apartment's walls to create a sort-of degraded smack addict's Jackson Pollock mural. Ron Asheton, the only Stooge member who was not a junkie and who lived elsewhere, described it "...a lot of times there would be fresh stuff. Then it would dry on to the table or on the floor.... I wish I was smart enough to take pictures of it because it would have been a masterpiece."
<br/><br/>
<strong>2.  Sid Goes to the Toilet</strong><br/><br/>
<img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Sid%20Vicious%20-%20I%27m%20a%20Hot%20Dog%20Mess.jpg" width=210 align=right style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 20px">Dee Dee Ramone found himself at a party in London, hanging out for a few moments in the bathroom snorting great quantities of speed. It wasn't the sort of place you'd want to hang out for too long, as Dee Dee quickly noticed that the bathroom was disgusting &mdash; sinks, toilets, everything was full of vomit, piss, and shit. Sid Vicious &mdash; a key figure in the London punk scene but not yet a member of the Sex Pistols &mdash; wandered in and asked Dee Dee if he had anything to get high on, so Dee Dee generously gave Sid some of his crank. Vicious pulled out a syringe, stuck it into a toilet filled with puke and piss, and then loaded it with speed and shot himself up.
<br/><br/>
<strong>3.  Brave Ted Nugent, Rock Warrior</strong><br/><br/>
<img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Ted Nugent 4F scream dream.jpg" width=210 align=left style="margin-right: 20px; margin-left: 0px">The right-wing rocker Ted Nugent is known for being very antidrug and very prowar. The Motor City Madman happily calls out any pussy-ass traitor not ready to grab a gun or a bomb or a nuke and show those towelheads that we mean business. But back during the glory years of the Vietnam war, this most macho chickenhawk in the Republican firmament went to extremes to make sure his own pussy ass didn't end up in Vietnam, and he used drugs to do it.
<br/><br/>
In a 1970s <em>High Times</em> interview, Nugent related the story of how he avoided the draft. For 30 days prior to his appearance before the draft board, the hairy and bearded Nugent stopped brushing his teeth, bathing, washing himself, or combing his hair. He ate nothing but junk food and high-fat foods and drank nothing but Pepsi and beer.
<br/><br/>
Then, a week before his physical, Nugent pulled out all the stops. He stopped going to the bathroom. "I did it in my pants. Shit, piss, the whole shot. My pants got crusted up." Then three days before the exam, Nugent started staying up with the help of crystal meth.
<br/><br/>
When he finally went in for the army physical, Nugent was so sick that he passed out during his blood test. During the urine test, he couldn't pee. And when it came time to give them some excrement, he pulled down his pants and it was all there and ready. In fact, he got it all over his hands and arm. Nugent bragged to <em>High Times</em>, "...in the mail I got this big juicy 4-F. They'd call dead people before they'd call me.... I just wasn't into it. I was too busy doin' my own thing." Didn't Dick Cheney say something like that? (Nugent has recently claimed that he made this story up.)
<br/><br/>
<strong>4.  Can You Tell the Difference Between Tripping Out and Nodding Out?</strong><br/><br/>
<a href="http://www.mikebloomfieldamericanmusic.com/flaghistory.htm"><img src="http://www.destinyland.org/images/Michael Bloomfield and Electric Flag.gif" width=210 align=right style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 20px" border=0></A>

In 1967, rock guitarist and notorious smack addict Michael Bloomfield, who had played with Bob Dylan on his classic mid-sixties albums and as a member of Blues Project, had his own band of fellow musician-junkies. They called themselves the Electric Flag. They were hired by B-movie master Roger Corman to create the soundtrack to Corman's LSD movie <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008973J?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00008973J">The Trip</A> (starring a young, acid-gobbling Jack Nicholson).
<br/><br/>
The band was invited to the film opening, where they took the front-row seats that had been set aside for them. But the lads had arrived so loaded down on smack that they were nodding off and spacing out throughout the film. In a <em>High Times</em> interview, Bloomfield added that the band was also encouraged to sleep by their positioning in the theater:  "We're sitting in the front row, and we're like one inch from the screen &mdash; we <em>have</em> to sit at a 90 degree angle just to see the movie..."
<br/><br/>
When the movie ended, everybody filed out except for Bloomfield and his coterie of stoned musicians, who were glued to their seats, some with eyes closed and the others glassy-eyed. Confronted by members of Corman's crew as to why they were not leaving the theatre, Bloomfield had enough presence of mind to come up with an excuse that would be socially acceptable at that time and within this particular milieu. "We all had a lot of acid," he told them. In 1967 Hollywood, at the screening of <em>The Trip,</em> this had to be respected. Not wanting to bum the fellows out during such a sensitive event, the crew members left the musicians alone in the theater. It took them several hours to pry themselves from their chairs.
<br/><br/>
<strong>5.  Waste Not, Want Not</strong><br/><br/>
<img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Izzy Stradlin.jpg" align=left style="margin-right: 20px; margin-left: 0px" width=230>Japan has a reputation for searching rock stars for drugs. Most famously, Paul McCartney spent some time in jail after going through Japanese customers <em>(see also the chapters: "The Beatles on Drugs" and "Big Busts and Big Deals").</em> So when Guns n' Roses guitarist Izzy Stradlin was warned by his manager to get rid of any drugs he might have before going through customers in Japan, Stradlin put them someplace he knew he wouldn't lose them &mdash; in his stomach. He must have had quite a stash, because he wound up in a coma for 96 hours.
<br/><br/>
<strong>6.  Jim Morrison's Excellent Adventure</strong><br/><br/>
<img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Jim%20Morrison.jpg" width=210 align=right style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 20px">In <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802142648?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0802142648">Please Kill Me,</A> Ronnie Cutrone, an artist and denizen of Andy Warhol's 1960s Factory scene described a typical night out with the Doors' lead vocalist:  "Jim would go out, lean up against the bar, order eight screwdrivers, put down six Tuinals on the bar, drink two or three screwdrivers, take two Tuinals, then he'd have to pee, but he couldn't leave the other five screwdrivers, so he'd take his dick out and pee, and some girl would come up and blow his dick, and then he'd finish the other five screwdrivers and then he'd finish the other four Tuinals, and then he'd pee in his pants, and then Eric Emerson and I would take him home."
<br/><br/>
<strong>7.  But <em>Why</em> Is Elton "Still Standing?"</strong><br/><br/>
<img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Elton John now.jpg" align=left style="margin-right: 20px; margin-left: 0px" width=230>In his mid-1970s heyday, Los Angeles declared "Elton John Week." To celebrate, the glam rock pasha invited his relatives out to L.A. to celebrate. Allegedly, Elton took 60 Valiums, jumped into a hotel pool, and shouted, "I'm going to die." His grandmother was heard to comment:  "I suppose we're going to have to go home now."
<br/><br/><br/>
<strong>8.  When Ozzy Got Some of That Good Government Cocaine</strong><br/><br/>

<img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Ozzy Osbourne favorite drugs.jpg" width=210 align=right style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 20px">
In a 1999 <em>High Times</em> interview, Ozzy talked about the time he had the best coke he'd ever had. He said, "I'm lying by the pool one day and I met this guy and I ask him, 'You want to do some coke?' He goes, 'no no no.' I'm whacking this stuff up my nose, it's a brilliant sunny day, and this guy's sitting there with one of those reflectors under his chin getting a suntan. I say, 'What do you do.' He says, 'I work for the government.' 'Uh... what do you do with the government?' 'I work for the drug squad.' I sez, 'You're fucking joking.' He shows me his badge. I fuckin' flipped...flames were coming out of my fingers, man. He says, 'Oh you're all right. I'm the guy that got you the coke.'"
<br/><br/>

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<strong>See Also:</strong><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/03/paul-mccartney-on-drugs/">Paul McCartney on Drugs</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/09/10/ed-rosenthal-marijuana-martyr/">Ed Rosenthal: Big Man of Buds</A><Br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/03/29/maps-drugs-research-ru-sirius/">Prescription Ecstasy and Other Pipe Dreams</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/09/20/willie-nelsons-narcotic-shrooms/">Willie Nelson's Narcotic Shrooms</A><br/><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/11/26/the-questionauthority-proposal/">The QuestionAuthority Proposal</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/12/04/bush-administrations-greatest-hits-to-your-face/">Bush Administration’s Greatest Hits (To Your Face)</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/11/15/catching-up-with-an-aqua-teen-terrorist/">Catching Up With an Aqua Teen Terrorist</A><Br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/08/08/dont-go-there-top-20-taboo-topics-for-presidential-candidates/">Don't Go There: Top 20 Taboo Topics for Presidential Candidates</A><br/><br/>

<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/07/03/steve-wozniak-v-stephen-colbert-and-other-pranks/">Steve Wozniak v. Stephen Colbert &mdash; and Other Pranks</A><BR>
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		<title>What Happened to the Perry Bible Fellowship?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Destiny</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cartoonist Nicholas Gurewitch is creating a TV show, a movie &#8212; and a message for his fans cleverly tucked into the last strip. <strong>By Destiny</strong><br/>]]></description>
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</div><strong>It's been over a year</strong> since cartoonist Nicholas Gurewitch entered semi-retirement.
But he's working on a movie, a TV show &mdash; and he even made a surreal appearance on a Fox News interview show.  And he's left behind a message for his fans, 
tucked away in plain sight in the comic strip <a href="http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF247-Catch_Phrase.jpg">Catch Phrase</A>. "There's no secret message," Gurewitch told us last week. "There's an overt message perhaps. That sometimes Life can pigeonhole a person. 
<br/><br/>
"That's something I personally believe is a danger..."
<br/><br/>
So in the last 13 months, the 25-year-old cartoonist has drawn just that one strip while he explores
even bigger mediums. "I'm very, very excited to imagine either of the films I'm
working on being made," Nicholas told <em>10 Zen Monkeys</em>. "I might very well post production materials
for them on my web site in the near future.
<br/><br/>
"I haven't been home in three weeks because I've been script-writing with
friends."
<br/><br/>
And Wednesday he finally released what may be <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593079885?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1593079885">the final collection of his Perry Bible Fellowship strips</A>.
It contains "a heck of a lot more," Nicholas <a href="http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6578699.html?q=gurewitch">told</A> <em>Publisher's Weekly</em>, and
the book's official site <a href="http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/15-499/The-Perry-Bible-Fellowship-Almanack-HC">lists</A> out bonus features like unpublished "lost" strips and
original sketches, plus Nicholas's revealing behind-the-scenes interview with <em>Wondermark</em> cartoonist David Malki. <BR/>

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An earlier collection, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593078447?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1593078447">The Trial of Colonel Sweeto</A>, will be discontinued,
and this book is "more of a deluxe edition," says Darkhorse Publishing's 
publicity coordinator, promising there's more than 20 strips that weren't in the 
first volume, "so its a more complete library."
<br/><br/>
They warn that this will probably be the final collection of Nicholas's work,
though in December the cartoonist told us he was "taking it easy, preparing some ideas," and in last week's email 
promised "I'll probably be posting a new PBF soonish."  
(The site was offline briefly in December, but only because "my Australian server guy fell on hard times.")
And in this book, "Nicholas went through and talked about a lot of the process he was going through,"
according to Jacquelene Cohen, a publicist at Dark Horse publishing. "He put a lot of thought into his inspiration."
<br/><br/><br/>
<strong>Television versus Books</strong>
<br/><br/>
Working in two countries, Nicholas prepared a pilot TV show for British television while
also retouching his strips for the book and remastering their colors. In fact, the book's publication date was
delayed six months while Nicholas gave it the same lavish attention as his web comic.
"He really wanted to be thorough and give each strip the time it deserves," remembers
Cohen, saying only that he committed "a painstaking number of hours put into making this 
as special as it could be."
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And the TV show?  It would be a series of sketches &mdash; including at least one based on the surprise-hazing strip <a href="http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF071-Weeaboo.gif">Weeaboo</A>. "The guys at the company that produced it &mdash; Endemol &mdash; fought hard to make sure that comic was adapted,"
Nicholas told us last week. "Most of the material is sparkling new. I wrote it with my friends." And the scriptwriting received expert
supervision by one of the writers of the surreal British comedy show <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012OV566?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B0012OV566">Look Around You</A>, Robert Popper.
<br/><br/>
"He was a great guy," adds Nicholas.
<br/><br/>
The BBC and the rival Channel 4 network are both reviewing the show now.
("I've been told that the hurting economy has hindered the speed of their decision-making,"
Nicholas notes &mdash; but he says that both networks are still interested in it.)
In fact, Nicholas had already <a href="http://www.destinyland.org/gurewitch-movies.htm">experimented with making movies</A> out of some of his most famous strips,
including <em>New Specs for Ken</em> and <em>A Kiss For Joe</em> (a two-minute film in which Nicholas himself makes an appearance). 
<br/><br/>

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Last week Nicholas told us he's now working on the script for a feature length film (along with his friend Jordan Morris). "My buddy Jordan is always really good about knowing how I should amplify an idea," Nicholas says, "and he's come up with ideas [for the strip] on his 
own. We're all kind of on the same wavelength collaborating, and it's extremely easy."
Nicholas <a href="http://lab-zine.com/issues/0_5/articles/mystery-illustrator/">explained</A> to one interviewer that "When we’re both giddy with laughter, I can tell we’re on 
to something good." 		
<br/><br/>

Nicholas seems to have cinema-sized dreams &mdash; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YABYLA?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000YABYLA">Juno</A> screenwriter Diablo Cody even wrote the introduction for his new book
&mdash; and Nicholas offered a <a href="http://thedailycrosshatch.com/2009/03/23/interview-nicholas-gurewitch-pt-1-of-2/">simple explanation</A> to the Daily Cross Hatch. "I think a lot my ideas have grown so weird that 
I think I may need another medium for it." Nicholas has always been <a href="http://www.blorgable.com/2008/02/19/the-perry-bible-fellowship-enters-semi-retirement/">clear about</A> his reasons for slowing the publishing schedule: "I want to do other things besides be a cartoonist."
He discusses the transition in his book's introduction, and <a href="http://wondermark.com/">Wondermark's</A> creator David Malki 
makes a provocative point &mdash; "We'll never know what kind of novels Charles M. Schulz could have written."
<br/><br/>
<div class="breakout">
<div class="breakhead">See Also:</div>
<div class="breakcontent">
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/01/05/records-broken-by-the-perry-bible-fellowship/">Records Broken by the</A><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/01/05/records-broken-by-the-perry-bible-fellowship/">Perry Bible Fellowship</A><br />

&raquo; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593078447?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1593078447">The Trial of Colonel Sweeto</A><br />
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/10/04/neil-gaiman-has-lost-his-clothes-2/">Neil Gaiman Lost His Clothes</A><br />
&raquo; <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/09/04/secrets-of-the-perry-bible-fellowship/">Secrets of the Perry</A> 
<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/09/04/secrets-of-the-perry-bible-fellowship/">Bible Fellowship</A><br />

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Nicholas also uses the interview to suggest that he's taking a lesson from the cartoonist who created <em>The Far Side.</em>
"I'm sure Gary Larson had trained his brain by the peak of his career
to derive the unbearable oddness of any slice of life. Like, I'm willing
to bet that there's a muscle in his brain that he just honed, so that he
could see all of life a certain way... If he's constantly looking at the world with that vision, and it's an
honest vision, I don't think he can do much wrong."
<br/><br/>
But Nicholas also makes sure he acknowledges his admiration for Bill Watterson,
the popular cartoonist who fiercely resisted merchandizing of his comic strip, <em>Calvin and Hobbes</em>. ("Bill knows better than anyone the value of
keeping your characters from appearing on things that get thrown away.") In the same spirit,
Nicholas's new book comes with a satin-red bookmark, and was designed with an eye for quality.
"This book will look great as a (sick and 
twisted) coffee table book," wrote <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Freview%2FR54LH8JP32FFW&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957">one reviewer on Amazon.</A> 
<br/><br/>"It's almost a shame to put it in a shelf as the cover is such eye candy..."

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Dark Horse Publishing acknowledges that "We didn't really understand the potential of his 
first book, and it ended up being a major, major success." (Nearly 27,000 copies 
were sold before the collection was even released!) Jacquelene Cohen remembers that when Nicholas visited trade shows, "he would have lines wrapping down one aisle and then
halfway down the next &mdash; people mobbing him for autographs and signed prints and books.
It was crazy &mdash; like mayhem.  <br/><br/>
"He loved it."
<br/><br/><br/>
<strong>Beyond the Perry Bible Fellowship</strong>
<br/><br/>

It's been 13 months since Nicholas reverted the strip to "a pace I'm more comfortable with,"
and over the summer he <a href="http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6578699.html">told</A> interviewers that "I doubt they'll have regular 
intervals. But that's something I'll focus on as soon as I finish up work in these other areas." 
Fans may miss the strip, but Nicholas shares a secret in the new book &mdash;
just how much care went into the online strips (even after they'd been published in newspapers). 
"I think there's about a hundred hours'
work difference between the 'Commander Crisp' that I finished for the newspapers and the
'Commander Crisp' that I finished for the web." 


<br/>
<blockquote>
I've lost a week's worth of work before because I've realized that a comic could
be done better. I scrap stuff all the time. In fact,
I find it kind of exciting to be able to scrap
something I've put hours of effort into. 
<br/><br/>
A lot of times,
you work all that time to maybe give your mind some liberated
state that allows you to do the very best job that you can
do. 

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<br/><br/><center><img src="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/Commander%20Crisp%20-%20The%20Perry%20Bible%20Fellowship.jpg"><BR><I>

<font size=2>A panel from "Commander Crisp"</font></i></center><BR>
The last year suggests the same freedom may be growing
from Nicholas's entire <em>Perry Bible Fellowship</em> experience.
After seven years of laboring over the strip, it may
become the first creative outburst that just unlocks an even greater one.
"I'm never worried about scrapping something," Nicholas says in his book. 
<br/><br/>
"Because a lot of times that fragment that
you labored over ends up finding a home in
some other future work." 
<br/><br/>

<strong>See Also:</strong><br />

<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/01/05/records-broken-by-the-perry-bible-fellowship/">Records Broken by the Perry Bible Fellowship</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593079885?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=destinyland-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1593079885">The Perry Bible Fellowship Almanack</A><br/>
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/10/04/neil-gaiman-has-lost-his-clothes-2/">Neil Gaiman has Lost His Clothes</A><br />
<a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/09/04/secrets-of-the-perry-bible-fellowship/">Secrets of the Perry Bible Fellowship</A><br />]]></content:encoded>
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